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[–] theinspectorst@kbin.social 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

authorities have asked Russians living in the country who they think rightfully owns Crimea, and their views on the Ukraine war.

This is McCarthyism. Crimea is obviously rightfully part of Ukraine and anyone who thinks otherwise is wrong according to international law and the considered opinion of the international community - but being wrong shouldn't be illegal. Governments should absolutely feel free to deport those Russian citizens who are actively acting on behalf of a hostile foreign government, but simply being both Russian and a moron doesn't mean you're automatically acting as an agent of Putin.

And what about those Russians in Lithuania who have loved ones back home or who may want to return to Russia one day, who have to outwardly not be critical of the regime even if that's not what they actually believe - how should they respond to these questionnaires?

You don't beat the bad guys by behaving like the bad guys. Privately held opinions should not be criminalised.

[–] Gsus4@lemmy.one 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're right in principle, but in practice this is more a more sensitive matter when you share a border with a country like russia.

What they could do is bar any russian from entering unless they can prove on a case-by-case basis at the border that they are escaping persecution in russia for being against the invasion and need to cross it. I think that would be legal and ethical.

[–] Aqarius@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

IIRC they did the exact opposite: they announced Russians running from the draft will be deprted back to Russia because they shoud not be allowed to "escape responsibility".

[–] ach@feddit.de 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Sounds like an easy case for the ECHR. It is also not the first time the Baltics have crossed the line.

Israel is also not wrong about the threats it is facing but neither their situation nor this one nor any other one justifies such clear violations of human rights.

[–] BlackRose@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 year ago

Which countries help russian deserters? Does the EU still send them back to Russia if they have no redidency?

[–] Kagami@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

The thing is the Russian propaganda machine will use this, and this is the fucked up part.

Instead of doing can't they just communicate with the Russian-speaking community more and decrease the impact of the Pro-Putin propaganda? Of course, this only goes for the pro-Putin Russians and not every Russian person is Pro-Putin.

[–] meldrik@lemmy.wtf 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That’s pretty fucked up. Having another opinion is not grounds for losing your residence permit.

[–] Tar_alcaran@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Good! We should all do this

[–] xuxebiko@kbin.social -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This is the right response to Russian state terror.

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