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"It's simple, really. We liked the way things were four years ago," said Samuel Negron, a Pennsylvania state constable and member of the large Puerto Rican community in the city of Allentown.

Donald Trump achieved a decisive victory over Kamala Harris, capturing key demographics that traditionally supported Democrats. He gained substantial support from white working-class voters, saw a 14-point increase among Latino voters, and performed better than expected with younger voters, especially men.

Economic concerns, particularly inflation, were central to Trump’s appeal, with voters across states like Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin favoring his promises of lower prices and stricter immigration policies.

Harris struggled to retain support in diverse and working-class areas, as voters blamed Democrats for economic hardships.

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[–] 2ugly2live@lemmy.world 72 points 1 day ago (4 children)

How the fuck can they say it was better 4 years ago. Do they mean right before Covid hit? Right before people lost their jobs and the dumbass politicized an illness? Right before people couldn't get baby formula? Right before people started fighting for fucking toilet paper? Before people started dying?

Dumb, dumb motherfuckers. You won't be at the table, you're going to be on the table, a table you built, and torn apart with knives you sharpened. You dumb fucks.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago

I think Trump bullshits well, then inherited good economy and whatnot from Obama, started canceling all that shit, which Biden then has been trying to fix and now Trump gets it again.

Policies take time to show and that's something these people didn't account for, imo.

Dumb, dumb motherfuckers.

Hard agree.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

The trump economy had a decent distance to fall for most people. The whole regime was a clusterfuck, but it was only starting to hit the majority of people in 2019. That was massively overshadowed by the pandemic which many people don’t realize how much worse we handled it than other countries like France and Vietnam. Well now that we just barely touched a soft landing for his fuck ups they’re about to see how bad his economic policies are. We’re gonna get fucked in the ass but unable to afford lube

[–] socsa@piefed.social 9 points 1 day ago

I can't wait until we get to 2028 so we can talk about how eggs are more expensive than they are now. Oh wait, that only happens when democrats are in office

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[–] oxjox@lemmy.ml 39 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (9 children)

We liked the way things were four years ago,

Apparently I am the one who has been living in an alternative reality for the past eight years.

All the headlines today are about how the democrats screwed up. What I have not seen discussed is how in the everlivingingfuck any person could possibly vote for Trump. There was nothing good about his presidency. By all measures, he was one of the worst presidents in American history (while Biden was one of the best in modern times).

We all, myself included, need an education about what the president does and how they can impact kitchen table economics. I mean, I find it hard to grasp that people would vote for Trump just because the cost of bread is up while ignoring the pages of lies, indictments, convictions, rapes, bankruptcies, coup attempts, impeachments, not to mention hate speech. I hope people still don't have the belief that the US president has any substantial impact on gas prices. The economic efforts of the Biden administration have fixed everything that Trump screwed up.

I still don't think people know what inflation is. And while we all have the world's information in our pockets, no-one cares enough to look it up. Inflation goes up because the demand for goods is higher than the supply - meaning either we were buying too much crap and/or there were environmental variables decreasing supply. Inflation happened because of the government stimulus checks, supply chain issues, and disease spread across livestock - it's a feature, not a bug. I get that all they care about is their grocery store bill but a basic understanding of economic policy would go a really long way. The Democratic policies, past and proposed, put consumer (and livestock) protections in place to prevent or minimize price gouging and monopolies and supply chain disruptions. The Republicans fight these bills because it would cut profits for corporations. Voting for a Republican is a vote for less regulation - it's the regulations that keep prices down. Unfortunately, government moves slow AF so a lot of times these regulations don't have an impact until the next president's term.

By all accounts, Trump is going to drain our wallets. I am terrified. I haven't had a raise in over ten years. I don't really have a skill set that can transfer well to other companies. I'm a renter with an amazing landlord (relatively cheap rent) but I was hoping to buy a house sometime in my lifetime. What Trump has proposed is going to substantially raise the prices of good and services. The Republican agenda is to strip the country of public services and make them private enterprises - raising the cost of living for everyone. I really don't know what I'm going to do for the next four years.

It's not the faulty of Democrats. It's the fault of the media and capitalism. It's the fault of crumbling journalism as people choose hot take emotional rage bait over educating themselves to understand why we are where we are. It's the fault of the DNC and RNC being too powerful and their fight against reasonable elections such as RCV or STAR voting. It's the fault of corporations controlling congress. The conspiracy that no one wants to acknowledge is that we're moving towards a country that is privately owned by a handful of billionaires.

[–] DancingBear@midwest.social 2 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

People are tired of corporate stooge politicians. Trump only cares about himself even more than he cares about his donors. This makes him look unique and populist. Folks like Kamala are straightforward and honest about advocating for policies their corporate and dark money pac contributors support

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[–] djsoren19@yiffit.net 4 points 1 day ago

The conspiracy that no one wants to acknowledge is that we're moving towards a country that is privately owned by a handful of billionaires.

We're already there. Their prized pig already swindled the uneducated voters, and their "brave opposition" fulfilled their role by constantly seeking failure. The U.S. was sold in 2010. It's been owned for so long that the masks can start coming off now.

I feel better seeing at least one person posting like I have. Im not the only one.

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[–] Professorozone@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Yeah, they liked being in the middle of a poorly handled pandemic. It was great!!

[–] AmidFuror@fedia.io 1 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Really surprised the article didn't mention Gaza or genocide.

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[–] MirthfulAlembic@lemmy.world 145 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Reading that article is a serious indictment of economic literacy in the United States. People don't understand what role the president plays in the economy, what causes inflation, or how and why interest rates change. They draw really superficial causal links and don't think about it after that; it's fact to them.

It's reasons like this education may be the single most critical issue, since we can't make progress on the climate or anything else if the population is incapable of critical thinking. I hate to say it like this because it feels patronizing, but Jesus fucking Christ.

[–] FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io 96 points 1 day ago (2 children)

They didn't gut the public educational system on accident, things are functioning as designed.

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[–] ASDraptor@lemmy.autism.place 134 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

"It's simple, really, I'm just a piece of shit who doesn't give a fuck about anyone but myself and I'm dumb enough to think that our beloved Leader won't fuck us when he starts fucking the rest of the country"

[–] newthrowaway20@lemmy.world 94 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

More like "it's simple really. I'm spending $1 more on eggs than I did during a pandemic, so I'm gonna vote for the person taking photos with breakfast food"

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[–] Chozo@fedia.io 102 points 1 day ago (4 children)

"It's simple, really. We liked the way things were four years ago,"

You liked living in a crumbling economy riddled with mass unemployment and caused by a fumbled pandemic response that resulted in thousands of preventable deaths? Because that's where we were 4 years ago. That's the economy Trump gave us the first time.

[–] ech@lemm.ee 12 points 1 day ago

resulted in thousands of preventable deaths

Millions, and it's still climbing thanks in large part to his decision to politicize public health.

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 85 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (10 children)

“It’s simple, really. We liked the way things were four years ago,” said Samuel Negron, a Pennsylvania state constable and member of the large Puerto Rican community in the city of Allentown.

His buddy called your homeland garbage.

He didn't give a shit.

[–] EleventhHour@lemmy.world 37 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Things were absolute shit four years ago. Do these people have amnesia? The economy during the beginning of the Trump presidency was great because of Obama. Trump quickly fucked that up and ended his presidency with a near collapse of our economy.

These people are idiots.

[–] burgersc12@mander.xyz 9 points 1 day ago

I personally was a big fan of the death and unmitigated disaster surrounding the fumbling of COVID-19. Another big highlight was the 2020 election interference as well. This is what our country deserves, pretty soon reality is gonna hit all of us and we'll know we fucked up.

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[–] kikutwo@lemmy.world 65 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Gee, what didn't we have yet four years ago? Oh, that's right, a global pandemic shutdown and the resulting stimulus. Definitely the fault of the Dems.

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[–] suburban_hillbilly@lemmy.ml 50 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Y'all can be furious with this guy if you want, but he's probably the most important person to be listening to. The block that determines elections has always been the sizable mass of extremely low information voters who don't have any strong political affiliations and vote mainly because of some vague sense of civic duty.

They aren't interested in economic and foreign policy debates. They don't care about intangibles like democratic norms and the rule of law. They don't want to hear your class analysis or how qualified you are to give it. The only question they're considering is "Has life been going well for me and the people in my community that I care about?" That's it. It's a vibe check.

Good vibes? Vote for those in power. Bad vibes? Vote against those in power.

This is the voter you need to convince if you want to win.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 41 points 1 day ago (3 children)

the sizable mass of extremely low information voters

If this was the 1920s you'd have a point. Hell, the 1950s, 60's even.

It's 2024. There's a huge mass of information in every square inch of the world now. There's no excuse for being so goddamned stupid.

"Out here, you pay $5 for a dozen eggs. It used to be $1, or even 99 cents," Mr Negron added. "A lot of us have woken up, in my opinion, from Democratic lies that things have been better. We realised things were better then."

Listen to that fucking garbage. "Democratic lies" "We realised things were better then". That's right wing media copypasta if there ever was any.

Absolute fucking shitheaded moron fuck who's screwed us all to ingratiate himself with nazis.

[–] suburban_hillbilly@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Like I said, be mad if you want. Doesn't change anything. His vote still counts the same as mine and everybody else's. You still live in a world where you need that guy to be on your side. You can either shout at the wind that the world isn't the way you think it should be or figure out how to improve the world that is actually in front of you.

Absolute fucking shitheaded moron fuck who’s screwed us all to ingratiate himself with nazis.

Guy isn't trying to ingratiate himself with anybody. He just told you what he was trying to do—make the world better for himself and his family. In particular, he wants to spend less on groceries. Low information voters might not be able to connect the dots between supreme court nominations, monetary policy, and broad economic trends, but they will unfailingly notice they're spending 20% more on groceries than they did four years ago. You want to point out that it's not the Democrats fault inflation ballooned out of control? I'm right there with you. I voted that way in Pennsylvania. That guy doesn't care. He voted the other way because he wants cheaper groceries and as far as he can tell, Democrats didn't get it done. Calling him a moron and Nazi ally isn't going to change that.

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[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 48 points 1 day ago (2 children)

“We saw a huge difference when Trump was president,” Dietzler said, adding that he was drawn to Trump’s embrace of former Democrats like Robert F Kennedy Jr

These people are morons. And they're happy about it.

[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

To be fair I notice a huge difference when trump was president and it determined how I voted.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Same. That's why I voted for Harris

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[–] Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 47 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I'm calling it. The Fed will start gradually lowering its interest rates down to near 0 as the stock market booms with cheap money. The news will show troubling social and geopolitical problems that will be quickly swept over by the latest Dow Jones and S&P 500 values getting to absurd heights. People will start grumbling about the nation's problems again while Trump will say it's the "Deep State" causing all of this and pointing the finger at Democrats and undocumented immigrants.

Inflation starts to spike again at the start of the 4th year of Trump's presidency. Even more people will start to go homeless as the average monthly cost of a 1 bedroom apartment soars to $3k. If Trump is still "healthy", the Supreme Court will declare a sitting president can hold on to power during times of emergency and cancel US elections.

given the china tarrifs it might be one of those faster than expected thing.

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[–] dan1101@lemm.ee 42 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The president doesn't have magical knobs that will lower the prices of eggs or fuel.

We are still feeling the effects of post-Covid economy, materials and products got expensive and most never came back down. The president can't do anything about that unless they are going to interfere with the free market. Really ignorant of people to vote for Trump on that basis.

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