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$60, has capacitive joysticks, gyro, steam menu buttons, and 4 extra buttons. Fully supported in Steam Input.

However, no track pads or vibration.

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[–] kelvie@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 day ago

While I'd like it to have rumble and trackpads, I pre-ordered one (to Canada).

I just want the xbox button layout with proper motion controls, which it seems like this delivers on, and with a bonus of actual back buttons (that can be mapped in Steam, unlike when controllers emulate Xbox or switch controllers)

[–] Entropy@lemmy.blahaj.zone 96 points 1 day ago (2 children)

This is cool and all, but no rumble is kind of a deal breaker for me

[–] caseyweederman@lemmy.ca 1 points 15 hours ago

Same. I've got multiple 8bitdo products and I was still considering one, but no rumble is just weird.

[–] dhhyfddehhfyy4673@fedia.io 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah, I was totally on board till I got to that part. What an absurd exclusion :/

[–] maxprime@lemmy.ml 9 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Go figure. I usually turn rumble off.

[–] swag_money@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

yeah i don't see why excluding rumble would be a deal breaker. is it an immersion thing?

[–] M137@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Rumble is an information tool, it's not just "haha, Brrr when shoot". It's incredibly useful in many ways, and also very much helps immersion. The rumble we have now is much more precise and varied than it was back in the n64 generation, especially with controllers like the ps5 dualsense. I have a Gulikit KK3 MAX and its rumble is amazing, with every feeling from small precise taps to arm-shaking explosions. And when a game has well designed rumble implementation, which many have now, it's just awesome. One genre of games that really shine is racing games, you feel everything, even different vibrations on different parts of the controller if for example your left tires are on dirt and right ones are on asphalt.

A good example just from the top of my head was when I played Pacific Drive, your car can break in many ways and I always noticed that one of my tyres had a flat from the rumble before I noticed it any other way, and knew which side it was on just from the feeling.

[–] bpt11@sh.itjust.works 1 points 18 hours ago

Some good news today 🙏

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 25 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

$60 is a lot for two extra buttons and no vibration. Gyro is nice, if it actually works with games though.

I feel like they missed an opportunity by not replacing the d-pad with a track pad.

[–] Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I think it has 4 extra buttons, in addition to the back buttons there are two extra buttons under the dpad and right thumb stick.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Those are the back pedals.
It has two extra Menu buttons. Not the most exciting thing in controller design.

[–] etchinghillside@reddthat.com 7 points 1 day ago (3 children)

When can I use my Steamdeck as a controller? I will literally settle for that level of stupidness if we can’t have controller v2.

Aside: happy to see that it has some form of back paddles - but If Steam will allow them to be configured is another issue I’ve encountered.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Both the back paddles and gyro are things that are great, and every gamepad should have them, but there's almost no compatibility with anything on PC.

Most I've ever seen is being able to change a button to a back paddle. Not even remapping a key, just a face or shoulder button. I swap it with the stick press buttons (L&R3). But it'd be great to be able to actually remap keys.

[–] thingsiplay@beehaw.org 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Steam itself has remapping functionality to extend any gamepad with customization. You can remap (and much more than just rempap) all keys and elements of a gamepad through the Steam Controller setup. People have uploaded their configurations, so you can download them. But this extended custom functionality is only for Steam.

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[–] Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You can technically stream your game to your deck, and it will work as a controller. If you have the OLED deck you can use something like magicblack Decky plugin to turn off the screen while playing

[–] averyminya@beehaw.org 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What I really want is a Wii-U like experience lol

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[–] Zeta616@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

I've read you can use your steam deck as a controller by using virtualhere Haven't tried it personally yet

[–] Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 77 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Without all the features that actually made the Steam Controller great... yeah

[–] M137@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I don't understand how they got the official steam brand name, it's just a mid-end controller with some major features missing.

[–] Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 11 hours ago

They probably pay lots of money for it

[–] Piwix@lemm.ee 6 points 1 day ago

Touch capacitance on the stick is a gyro-must for me, so im happy to finally see a controller with this. actually just ordered this from amazon japan, didnt think it would actually get a US release.

[–] JoYo@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

if i didn't have a billion Stadia controllers i might.

[–] Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah I have 4 stadia controllers, and they're great. But I do miss gyro/back buttons.

[–] jjlinux@lemmy.ml 2 points 21 hours ago

Lol, so many of us with crazy amounts of Stadia controllers. I even gave away like 3 and still have 4 🤣

[–] WarTowel@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

I didn't know rumble was such a popular feature. It's one of the first things I turn off in every game.

[–] BmeBenji@lemm.ee 47 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Cool, I like the capacitive sticks, but not what I’m waiting for. I want a Steam controller 2 that’s a Deck without the touchscreen. Anything less and I’m not really interested

[–] chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'd like it kinda like the PlayStation controller with the pad in the center.

[–] jjlinux@lemmy.ml 2 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Now that you mention it, is there a way to make the pad work on the steam deck in those controllers?

[–] Dima@lemmy.one 3 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

The DualSense touchpad is detected and can be configured in steam input if you have it enabled for the controller

[–] jjlinux@lemmy.ml 1 points 14 hours ago

Oh, sweet. Time to take a dualsense for a spin on the deck. Thanks.

[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 43 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I still regularly use my original Steam Controller -- for the trackpads. It allows me to do M+KB strategy gaming from the couch.

This lacks the killer feature, IMHO, given that I can use any of a wide variety of regular Bluetooth controllers for stuff with controller support.

[–] ekky@sopuli.xyz 30 points 1 day ago (2 children)

What really sets the Steam Controller (and the Steam Deck's control layout) apart from the market are the dual touchpads and dynamically/easily programmable buttons. The above just looks like a reskinned XBox controller, and, if I read the article right, it needs a "companion app" to get full functionality out of the controller.

I hope that they at least made sure that the companion app works on the Steam Deck.

[–] Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

From what I understand, steam input has full support for it as well. As in it will show the controller in steam, and let you program back buttons/capacitive sticks/etc.

I think you only need the companion app if you aren't using steam.

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[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 5 points 1 day ago

Ah ok. That's slick.
I wish steam would recognize all the buttons on my gamepad like that.

[–] L0rdMathias@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago

Not having the touchpads is a big downside, but this still fills a huge niche that the others dont. My Xbox elite controller is cool and all, but has neither a gyro nor capacitive joysticks. My dualsense has a gyro, but no capacitive touch so I need to activate it with a button hold or leave it always on.

The Xbox and PS5 controller also don't treat the paddles as independent buttons by default, so you need an extra layer of software on PC that allows mapping those buttons to arbitrary inputs. Steam Input can overwrite this sometimes, but it's very inconsistent on a game + hardware basis. The companion app is a concerning "feature". Hopefully it's just marketing trying to make up a fancy phrase for "hardware driver".

[–] Mugmoor@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You're still better off with something from 8Bit-do at that price. If they included trackpads and vibration it would've been a nice Steam Controller v2.

[–] BluesF@lemmy.world 2 points 17 hours ago

Yeah the track pads are so cool! I don't use mine much, but for RPGs with a lot of abilities being able to setup little touch menus is indispensable. Considering the deck has the same interface it makes complete sense for docked mode to have an equivalent device.

[–] callmepk@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 day ago

Don't we all

[–] Midnitte@beehaw.org 12 points 1 day ago

A shame it doesn't have hall effect thumbsticks (and vibration), but more quality controllers I will not shake a stick at.

[–] thingsiplay@beehaw.org 12 points 1 day ago

I don't care about rumble vibration, but the missing trackpads is huge. The trackpads from the Steam Deck are game changing. At least one would be good to have, so I can program it with additional functionalities or custom menus in Steam. I probably still end up buying it to replace the Xbox Series S controller, as the Hori has gyro integrated, has touch sensors on the sticks and has back pedals.

My hope is, this controller will be sold through Steam, as it is officially licensed.

Fuck yes no rumble to remove. Definitely looking into this. Fuck rumble imo

[–] IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

DoA without rumble.

[–] Defaced@lemmy.world 4 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

It looked good, but the gyro is apparently awful and the trigger travel is basically non-existent.

[–] TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 3 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

description says no vibration at all. For $60?!

[–] hand@lemmy.studio 1 points 12 hours ago

Hmm, I'll stick with my Logitech F310 then.

I don't know how many people vibe with this, but the PS5's high definition super Hitachi wand rumble or whatever is literally my favorite thing about it. I can't imagine going for no vibration at all.

Anyone know how good Hori's d-pad is?

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