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[–] Celthicc@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I had what turned out to be Semi leftist ideals as a kid. As a teen I went through an Anti Conservative edgy Atheist ark. Intellectual dark web tried to turn me conservative, but while I was watching Sargon and other Alt Shite content I was always watching some leftists. My homepage was a nightmare. I believed in the marketplace of ideas, free speech, and socialism. But I didn't know the word socialism. I was a no theory having motherfucker. So, I became an anti liberal mad at SJWs for thinking everything was more important than class and that Class wasn't important at all. However, the right ended up being homophobic and shit with no principles and also didn't care about poor people are class.

So I'm a communist cause I finally found the politics that actually cared about humans. The politics that were treated as "impossible" my whole life. As I age, I only drift further and further left. I challenge more of the grand narratives I was raised with. Even if I was to "get something to conserve" there is more out there than my crumbs.

We need to end capitalism so there is a future.

[–] Tarzan9192@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Question...what drove you to Communism specifically? As opposed to, say... democratic socialism? I've read the communist manifesto by Marx...and I have to say, while tend to agree with some of the points made throughout...there is definitely some parts of the manifesto I do not align with. Do you have any more modern recommendations for a good communist society outline? Im trying to bridge the ideological gap in my mind because I despise capitalism in it's current form.

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[–] AnarchoYeasty@beehaw.org 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

When I was 18 I was a right wing libertarian. When I became a software engineer and started making good money I became a progressive democrat. Now that I make 6 figures I'm an Anarchist Communist. Question: when does my career of the last decade become a "real job" and make me a conservative asshole? Because I'm still waiting.

[–] ezmack@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Older I get the more the communists make sense. Always been left but I always leaned towards the anarchist stuff when I was younger. It'd be weird if your politics didn't change at least a little over time, regardless of your leanings, it's a process of trial and error

[–] regular_human@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I love my anarchist comrades, but yeah at some point the idealism gets exhausting

[–] fosiacat@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago
[–] whenigrowup356@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Additional possible data point that the current US conservative movement isn't all that motivated by economic issues and is spending most of its time talking about social stuff like "groomers," woke culture, abortion, CRT, etc.

They are losing ground with suburban voters and gaining with non-college educated voters because of these issues. So those factors are probably working against the traditional trend of "make it in your career, move to the suburbs and then start voting with your pocket-book"

(In addition to the whole you're-never-going-to-own-a-house thing others have already pointed out)

[–] HebrewHammer@reddthat.com 6 points 1 year ago (4 children)

This post is wild to me, where I live it's certainly true people are becoming more conservative as they age, and they're the most kind generous people I know.

Where are you living? This post I'm fairly sure is true in most Western countries and many non-Western ones.

[–] NotAPenguin@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

Have you seen the kind of people they vote for?
The kind of laws they get enacted?

Not very nice.

Conservatives can be friendly as long as you look and act exactly how they think you should.

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[–] Trolled@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

this shit is even worse than the reddit 196

[–] LazaroFilm@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

I think we radicalize when we get older. The issue is that the boomers have radicalized to the extreme, turning into the people their parents gave their life to fight against. So we are turning ourselves to the other direction. Also, the center in the us would already be considered right in Europe so having a mild leftist opinion is perceived as extremist.

[–] Wanderer@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I was left leaning when I was younger and a lot of that was due to left leaning people on the internet.

As I got older my views haven't changed that much but I definitely feel like the left have caused me to move further to the right. I still heavily believe in high government spending for essentials and free speech (which was a strong left view but is now a far right view). But I definitely see the left skewing the narrative. Things like if you are against open border policies you are a nazi and shit. Day to day conversations with the right are much more manageable and logical than conversations with the everyday left. But the big policies need to be left.

I wish there was some middle ground. Or more accurately a mixture of far left and left with a mixture of right and far right policies. But the left are shooting themselves in foot with a lot of little stuff and ignoring a lot of the big stuff that people care about.

[–] TotallynotJessica@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (4 children)

What right wing policies are actually better than their left wing alternative? Enlighten me.

[–] RatMaster@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago

Yeah like "free speech" being a "far right" thing, while simultaneously trying to stop people from talking about LGBTQ+ issues.

Meanwhile the left is doing what that's against free speech? You can say bigoted things all you want still as far as I know. It'll affect what people think of you as a person, but that's not what free speech is about.

This person is a lost cause.

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[–] diablexical@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

Hello fellow libruls!

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