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cross-posted from: https://beehaw.org/post/2971688

HELP COMPLETE THIS LIST OF PLAYERS.

The Preserve Championship in Minnesota was one of the few #DGPT events that #NatalieRyan was allowed to compete in this year. "ICONS - Independent Council on Women's Sports" sponsored this protest, and I'm curious about their financials/support base.

I haven't seen anyone post a list of ICONS-supporters, so maybe we could get one going here. As a disc golf fan, I think it's important to know where specific golfers stand on this issue.

The video linked here was led primarily by Cat and Sarah. Other than the timestamped names below, here's who I've spotted: FRONT ROW: Lisa Fajkus, Vanessa Van Dyken, Stacie (Hass) Kiefer OTHERS: Stacie Rawnsley, Nathan Queen?, Gannon Buhr, Garrett Gurthie, Nikko, Ezra Aderholt?, Robert Burridge, Austin Hannum

Previously signed "Declaration" on May 8th: Emily Beach, Deann Carey, Ruby Reyes, Evelina Salonen, Henna Bloomroos, Sarah Gilpin, Valerie Mandujano https://archive.ph/waVrH (Reddit archive)

0:00 Introduction 0:18 Catrina Allen 5:02 Sarah Hokom 15:06 Jennifer Allen 16:06 Kat Mertsch 17:18 Sami Keddington 18:26 Rebecca Cox 19:49 Jessica Weese 20:27 Kona (Panis) Montgomery 21:25 Catrina Allen 22:40 Sarah Hokom

#TransAthletes #TransRights #DiscGolf

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[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@beehaw.org 25 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's really disappointing how effectively people have been fleeced by transphobes into believing the "trans women are killing women's sports" narrative, even with all the evidence to the contrary.

Unrelated, but here's an archived link to that reddit post, since I'm guessing there are a lot of people here who may not want to click into reddit: https://archive.ph/waVrH

[–] Zepfanman@beehaw.org 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, it's really disappointing that so many FPO golfers feel threatened by trans players.

Thanks for the archive link! I've made the change. I guess there's no reliable "alternative front end" for Reddit right now?

[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago

Yeah, RIP libreddit and teddit :(

[–] StringTheory@beehaw.org 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They are working off a strange misogynistic assumption that any man is better than all women could be. Add on the transphobic assumption that a trans woman is actually a man. Voila! QED: Any trans woman is a better athlete than all cis women could be.

The thought process is so distorted.

[–] noodlejetski@geddit.social 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They are working off a strange misogynistic assumption that any man is better than all women could be.

reminder that 1 in 8 men in a survey thought that they could score a point playing tennis against Serena Williams https://mashable.com/article/serena-williams-poll-yougov-score-a-point

[–] StringTheory@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

That is… astounding. Painfully cringingly astounding. Is there a word for “feeling embarrassed for someone else’s smugly preening overconfidence”?

[–] StringTheory@beehaw.org 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I remember in Ye Olden Tymes when disc golf was a relaxed silly game played by chill crunchy granola types. Ultimate was, too (though they were the more athletic chill crunchy granola types).

No-one cared, they just played to have fun. Money ruins everything…

[–] frostycakes@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

Sadly disc golf has always also had the super right wing Christian contingent too-- my SO's brother is a staunch Pentecostal and found disc golf through church camps growing up, and is friends with a guy who does DG professionally, who is also a hard right Christian type.

All of this is half the reason I don't pick my discs up anymore, even though I'm a short walk from a course. I'm not here for a sport that's getting a name for being full of right wing transphobes.