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[–] flashgnash@lemm.ee 31 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (4 children)

Waydroid is better than bluestacks imo

[–] LiveLM@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Depends on the use case.
If OP's main goal is gaming, they'll likely miss the control remapping features. If the use case is running standard apps, then for sure

[–] flashgnash@lemm.ee 3 points 1 week ago

True, I used bluestacks once or twice and concluded it was bloated and possibly dodgy so never really used it

[–] Mwa@lemm.ee 2 points 2 weeks ago
[–] ILikePigeons@lemmy.ml 15 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It is definitely very performant. However, it was a pain to set up when I first tried to use it. First installing it, then installing an ARM to x86 compatibility layer, and then certifying the device for Google Play to work (which in hindsight isn't necessary considering that Aurora Store exists.)

[–] flashgnash@lemm.ee 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Certifying isn't too bad, I've done it 7 of 8 times now probably because I keep nuking my machines

Why do you need a compatibility layer? It runs x86 lineageos doesn't it?

[–] Quackdoc@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

There are good amount of applications that are only armed. Google actually might be getting an open source arm to x86 emulator/native bridge.

If they do, then waydroid can include translation directly, but as it stands, there are no open source translators, so it's not something waydroid can ship.

[–] ILikePigeons@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago

Yup, pretty much that. I really hope an open source ARM to x86 translation layer will be developed in the future, right now you have to install one of them (libhoudini or libndk) separately.

[–] joel1974@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Thank you. I will try this

[–] N00byKing@lemmy.world 67 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Mwa@lemm.ee 28 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Just a note: if your on a x11 desktop waydroid will not work without tinkering

[–] FGoo@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Said tinkering is pretty simple actually, just install weston. Weston is a reference wayland implementation that can run inside X11, so you can run waydroid inside weston

[–] Quackdoc@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I actually recommend using Niri lately. It's not super great, but it does support multi-touch, which is major.

I hope cosmic supports it at some point because cosmic actually supports operating in kiosk mode, and also uses smithay.

[–] FGoo@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Just to be sure, you're talking about this right?

If yes do you mean running using niri instead of weston?

[–] Quackdoc@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

correct on both accounts.

[–] mycodesucks@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] mycodesucks@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

That's a fair point, and it's the Waydroid team's unquestioned right to use whatever technologies they want to build their software on.

But just throwing it out as a solution to a general Linux question when there's a VERY good chance it's incompatible with major distros is omitting critical information.

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 9 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I'm on pop, with a working wayland for quite some time now. Excuse me fon being out of the loop, but what major distros don't have wayland support?

[–] Mwa@lemm.ee 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

linux mint(cinnamon stable ,experimental has some wayland support),mx linux(non kde version but am pretty sure kde 5.27 doesnt have wayland out of the box if they follow debian stable release cycle),antix,debian is what i can get from my head

[–] mycodesucks@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Just off the top of my head, Linux Mint, which I know because Waydroid is incompatible with the machines I use in my classrooms. Even if it were compatible, unless the lack of global hotkeys has been addressed changing is a non-starter.

[–] Chewy7324@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 weeks ago

Global hotkeys have been addressed on KDE, but no applications actually support it — one of the reasons being that no other desktops support it. Typical chicken-egg problem.

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 1 points 2 weeks ago

Is global hotkey like push to talk in an app working when another is app is focussed?

[–] Quackdoc@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

Thankfully nested compositor, while not perfect, work really well for most use cases.

You won't get native multi-window support, because I don't think there are any nested compositors that work like that. There was a project in the past, but I'm pretty sure it's dead now. However, if you looking for something like a blue stack, it's alternative where you're only trying to play one game at a time, then waydroid with a nested compositor will work fine.

I apologize for the rock writing. I'm using speech 2 text.

[–] bruhsoulz@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

For future reference, u can get it working by running "mini" wayland sessions in your X11 sessions using something like weston :3

[–] unrealapex@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 week ago

I didn't realize how cool Wayland is. I'm going to start transitioning from dwm to dwl ⸜( ^ ᵕ ^ )⸝♡

[–] Mwa@lemm.ee 2 points 1 week ago

Yep was the fixes online

[–] iamroot@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Genymotion should work too, free for personal use.

[–] jaxiiruff@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I tried that and it wasnt good. Though I was on windows at the time. So Waydroid is a godsend, its pushy with the licensing which was annoying to deal with.

[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 weeks ago

Last time I tried Genymotion (a few years ago) their Linux support existed, but sucked

[–] Presi300@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago

Android studio?