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13% of Democrats agree with Trump on that.

What the actual fuck?

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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

Seems like the usual 1/3 that agrees with trump on whatever. Not gonna change.

[–] rsuri@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

13% of Democrats agree with Trump on that.

More proof of fake respondents. Basically some people, for whatever reason (depending on the poll it could be financial) just speed run the polls with no thought about what they're clicking on. So it makes any extremely unpopular view appear more supported. I can't find much about how this was done, if it was an online opt-in poll I'd be especially suspicious.

Edit: it seems this was done with a Ipsos KnowledgePanel, which as I suspected is an online, paid, opt-in panel. This is exactly the kind of design that's prone to speed running for cash.

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[–] Jagothaciv@kbin.earth 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

After working construction for decades I can say that American workers are shit compared to foreigners. Muslim workers are the hardest. Especially from Ethiopia or Somalia. They learn fast too and are better in many cases than Mexican or SA workers. PLUS no drug or alcohol or daddy/mommy/religious issues.

When I was building in Africa we finished a project 3 days early. They didn’t even have the skills, we taught on site. That would NEVER happen with regular Americans.

[–] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

Those are immigrants though. Have you ever seriously looked into the bullshit you need to go through to move to another country? It's insane.

Every immigrant is more impressive than any Olympian.

[–] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

All you pale face non-natives gyit the fuuuck out!

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[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 month ago

"think of how dumb the average guy is. Now remember that half the population is dumber than him." -- George Carlin.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

One third of Americans are fascists.

Checks out.

[–] r00ty@kbin.life 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I think it's probably important to find out why this is, rather than just wag the finger and move on. Because, if the trend continues the non fascists will be outnumbered. In fact, I would say that this is really saying that 1/3rd of Americans feel free enough to say this. There's a good chance there's a silent amount afraid to say their true thoughts.

If it's just outside brainwashing, then investigate that. If there's a genuine root concern that is causing this attitude, see if it can be reasonably addressed. If it's just idiocracy happening, well then we're all screwed.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (4 children)

I would posit the opposite - if the trend continues, fascists will shrink further. You gotta remember, horrors of the past are not that long ago. Wasn't all that distant in our past when segregation had majority support, or blanket bans on nonwhite folk becoming naturalized citizens, or eugenics before that.

If we beat them now, we can continue the next four years to fight to shrink the hold that fascist views have on our society still further.

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[–] nucleative@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

There are only a few counties in the world that draw the smartest and most accomplished from the rest of the world. The USA is pretty high on that list. This gives the USA an unfair advantage worldwide in several ways:

US schools and businesses get to pick from the best and brightest worldwide, promoting an atmosphere of high performance STEM jobs.

US replaces lost high education and high IQ population, since there is a negative correlation between education level and reproduction.

Finally, if you think in terms of winners vs losers, which I feel MAGAs do these days,, other countries lose their best and brightest, making them less competitive to the USA.

And of course don't forget that the vast majority of Americans come from families that immigrated, and few would argue that they themselves should be sent back "to where they came from".

No matter how you look at it, immigration is extremely advantageous to the USA if handled properly and an enviable position that many other countries wish they could be in.

[–] swordgeek@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 month ago

So a third of the country are Nazis.

Not racists, not misinformed, not uneducated, but actual Nazis.

In ~20 days, the most powerful and dangerous country on earth may well elect a party of Nazis to rule them.

God help us all.

[–] rtxn@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

I wonder how many of those people are children of immigrants.

(although, in a broader view, probably all of them are at least descendants of immigrants)

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[–] _core@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Who did they poll? How was the poll conducted? If it's a phone poll you're going to get old people, no one younger than 40 is going to do a phone poll. And most old people are conservatives. When it comes to polls, it's very easy to manipulate the results either in how it's done or how the results are interpreted.

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[–] Zip2@feddit.uk 8 points 1 month ago (3 children)

And where in time does he draw the line where everyone after it is an immigrant?

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[–] NoForwardslashS@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 month ago

Which bloodline would that be? The great Royal bloodline of the Ancient American Empire?

What about all those people saying they're 1/16th Cherokee?

[–] BendyLemmy@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (9 children)

I'm struggling here to avoid being offensive - but really, Americans often appear to me to be averaging subhuman intelligence.

Yesterday I was reading about Latino MAGA's who just assume Trump isn't talking about them...

[–] vxx@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Using "subhuman" for persons while arguing against eugenics...

You can't make that stuff up

[–] piccolo@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

everyone thinks they are the leopard eating faces until a bigger leopard eats their face.

Just a reminder, there were "Jews for Hitler". We can guess what happened to them after hitler rose to power.

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

I'm not saying America is the center of world intellectualism, but you're also getting quite a selection bias since "stupid American" stories are even popular to other Americans.

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