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[–] saltesc@lemmy.world 79 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Not to alarm anyone, but unless you're doing the 100m in around 11s or less, current large crocodiles are still faster than you. But if you're fit enough to keep the speed going, you should outlast them over short enough distance.

And if you can't do any of that, well you'll have to run lateral to it and hope your agility out maneouvers them.

[–] Artyom@lemm.ee 49 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Mythbusters tested whether it was better to zig zag or run straight away from a gator. Turns out, it doesn't matter, gators won't chase you.

[–] rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 28 points 2 days ago

They've spent hundreds of millions of years sitting in lakes waiting for food to step in their mouths. They deserve to be called sloths more than actual sloths.

[–] Phoenix3875@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Did they test it on alligators or really hungry alligators?

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Some Floridaman has. Apparently their jaws are really good for chomping down, but not that great for opening back up. So, you belly flop on the thing from behind, and it can't really do a thing to you while you take some shoelaces and tie the gator's jaws shut. At that point you can transfer the gator to a different swamp that isn't inhabited by Floridaman. At least that's the best description I have, of the technique I watched the guy use.

[–] Tyfud@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It doesn't necessarily matter. They just don't like running after prey.

They can make swift dashes on land to catch prey sunbathing or something that's escaping, but that's the limits of what they'd like to do.

It's like Pandas. They're cute as hell, but if it wasn't for us, they'd have died out already. They've evolved themselves to a point where all they eat is one specific plant, and they have such a low sex drive that we can't even show them Panda Porn to get them horny. We literally have to extract sperm from their balls and inject it into the uterus of the female to make baby pandas.

Evolution is lazy is what I'm trying to say.

[–] aubertlone@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Dude you're completely totally wrong about Pandas.

Pandas only have fertility issues in captivity. Everything you described just now ONLY applies to pandas living in captivity

They do just fine in the wild. At least, they

The reason for their falling population numbers is their loss of habitat.

And if I remember correctly they have one cub every two years, overall low rate of reproduction but that has more reproductive strategy than anything else.

Suffice to say: pandas reproduce much more successfully in the wild than previously thought

[–] misterundercoat@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

Serpentine!

[–] BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Or that you have the adequate weapons on you, the knowledge and physical ability to use them properly.

[–] SomeAmateur@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

chootem inna hed nah boa!

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 38 points 2 days ago

A mighty steed!

You cannot prove that humans didn't ride these into battle.

[–] blackwateropeth@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Oh shit, sadam is that you?

[–] dumbass@leminal.space 2 points 1 day ago

Nah, just one if his body doubles.

[–] Zip2@feddit.uk 16 points 2 days ago

Steve Irwin would still have fed them.

[–] expatriado@lemmy.world 25 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

hairy crocodile? artistic liberty?

[–] lunarul@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Looks like they photoshopped a crocodile onto a bear

[–] expatriado@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

lol, i wasn't paying attention clearly

[–] Elgenzay@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 days ago
[–] UraniumBlazer@lemm.ee 18 points 2 days ago (3 children)
[–] MagicShel@programming.dev 6 points 2 days ago

Sure, li'l buddy! He's coming quick, so I'm just going to run over there to take a picture.

[–] DwjsrIyx@lemmynsfw.com 10 points 2 days ago

Yes but only once

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[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

invents bazooka

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 52 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Just so ya know, a regular modern day crocodile can also outrun you on land.

[–] thann@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 2 days ago

Yeah, but only because I'm American

[–] Dicska@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Yeah but I would easily beat him in hurdles.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

This is true. Or running serpentine:

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] iamahab@feddit.org 3 points 1 day ago

Should be Land of the Lost (2009) if Reverse Image Search isn't failing me.

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[–] Tyfud@lemmy.world 34 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Alligators can already outrun a person on land.

They just choose not to. Because they're lazy and they don't like running after their prey.

I suspect the same was probably true of whatever it was we killed off back then too.

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Flat solid land? Nah, person wins on any distance over a few feet.

Through brush and marsh? Nobody beats the gator.

[–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 8 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Not a lot of people can run 11mph for any distance, though.

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[–] Tyfud@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago (3 children)

That's not true. And another one.

TL;DR;

They can run up to 35mph over short (20-30ft) distances. Then they can run at a slightly slower (though faster than most humans) pace for a sustained period of roughly 100 feet (30ish meters for the non-'mericans).

In every scenario they can and will catch every human on earth except an Olympic sprinter. And even then, it wouldn't be a comfortable race for them.

The reason they don't chase you down and eat you on land, is because they've evolved to be ambush predators from water transitions to land. They are lazy. Simple as that. And their food comes to them in most cases. Why would they want to spend all those calories just to maybe get a un-tasty human? They conserve energy so they can perform several ambush attempts for prey, rather than one long chase.

In the end, their current approach gets them more calories for the efforts, which is why they've evolved that way.

But they can, on paper, absolutely wipe the floor with you in a sprint over solid, flat land. For 100 feet.

[–] Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 8 points 2 days ago

Usain Bolt's fastest recorded speed is 27.79 mph.

Unless you can dust the fastest man on Earth in a footrace, you're gonna be a snack.

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

You should try reading your source...

"Experts say the American alligator’s top running speed clocks in at 11mph."

I a fat outta shape slouch, but I think in a life or death situation I could manage 11mph for a few minutes.

Sure they can burst a good bit of speed, but that 20-30 ft sprint mostly comes from them lunging with all 4 legs and their tail as hard as they can and then maybe 1 or 2 more lunges and some scrabbling.

It's mainly a matter of weight and gait. They got stubby little side protruding legs and they weight a ton incomparison to their leg musculature. They can high walk for a good distance, and they can gallop, but only for a few steps.

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[–] BaroqueInMind@lemmy.one 32 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Fun fact, the reason dragons appear in literally every culture that developed language came from people surviving horrific encounters with enormous crocodiles.

[–] MajorMajormajormajor@lemmy.ca 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] Uruanna@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago

But is that a fact

(it's not)

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 21 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Gee, I wonder why those died out.

[–] uservoid1@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] officermike@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] superkret@feddit.org 1 points 2 days ago

I bet there were humans trying to fuck them.

[–] LesserAbe@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, who are they calling apex predator, take a look around.

[–] pdxfed@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago

More like ape-ex amirite

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 14 points 2 days ago

Crocodoggo! 😍

[–] Num10ck@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

All those "dragon types" charts you see call this a drake. I don't really get that because drakes are ducks.

[–] PapaStevesy@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

But according to those charts, ducks are wyverns...

[–] penguinsAreRapists@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Be the change you want to see.

[–] penguinsAreRapists@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago

I can barely take care of myself

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