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Can't help feel this will either be just a bit naff, or giving an additional advantage to an already strong car/driver combo.

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[–] bernieecclestoned@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The last sprint was interesting because of the changing conditions.

Time for the sprinklers.

[–] smeg@feddit.uk 13 points 1 year ago

Nurse, Bernie's out of bed and suggesting rule changes again!

[–] Matte@feddit.it 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

in a world that’s moving towards water scarcity, what could go wrong to waste thousands of litres of water out in the desert?

[–] itsmikeyd@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Salt water sprinklers!

[–] Munkisquisher@lemmy.nz 1 points 1 year ago

Or you get Monza this year :(

[–] Hazzard@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sounds like it's just going to be a trophy of some kind, which would be alright. It's a pretty darn impressive accomplishment to keep it together in both qualifying and race sessions, so I'd imagine the teams/drivers may actually be proud of them. Not going to be a big deal for viewers though, obviously.

[–] InfiniteLoop@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

yeah i’m good with another trophy like the mini-tire they sign for pole. I’d say this award should also require getting fastest lap during the race tho.

[–] NusPojava@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I really don't understand the push for sprint races... They bring nothing to the table, and yet Dominicalli sell out for them for a quick buck. Everything F1 does in the last 5 years has been extremely short -sighted.

[–] hglman@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

I suspect track ticket sales are better and they can charge more for Saturdays with a sprint.

[–] cccc@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I’ll admit I’m fresh to the sport and probably the market they’re after but an extra quali and an extra race are much more appealing to me as a viewer than two practice sessions. I prefer the sprint weekends.

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

They are maxed out on the number of GPs at this point, so the only way they can squeeze in more product is to eliminate the "filler" like practices and replace them with more racing. More racing = more TV viewers, more ticket sales and attendance on Fridays and Saturdays.

But I agree with you, sprints bring nothing new to the table, it's just quantity over quality.

[–] JustAManOnAToilet@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's all Liberty Media. They own the Atlanta Braves baseball team and I'm just surprised they haven't had some sort of 'synergy' event like pitchers pelting the cars or giving Ozuna (large muscular player) a few minutes alone with a baseball bat and the car on pole before a race.

[–] Ecksell@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago

A car on a pole match? Haha, calm down there Vince Russo!

[–] JohnQuincyKerbal@latte.isnot.coffee 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't really understand the point of the sprints if they're not going to do something to shake up the order like they have in the past. With reliability getting more and more universal across teams, sprint results are pretty comparable to the grand prix results.

As a fan I do appreciate having more on-track racing to watch, but I do wish they would reverse the top of the grid again to really shake things up and give those slower teams some more opportunities for points/battles.

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Agreed, there is nothing interesting about sprints at all, it's just quantity over quality at this point.

There are 4 things that make an F1 race interesting:

  1. the start and first few laps
  2. pit strategy, over/undercutting, etc
  3. rain
  4. Safety cars and red flags (with another shot at point #1).

In sprint races you're completely eliminating #2. #3 is random and fairly uncommon. And #4 happens the most on shitty tracks like street circuits. Given all of that, you might as well shut off sprint races after the first lap or two. If they want more events during the weekend they need to figure out a different format entirely. A mini GP with no pit stops is not it.

[–] Amoeba_of_death@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Sprint feels like a gimmick already, so let's lean into it more. Random starting grid or maybe get BAC or Radical to sponsor it and use a standard set of those cars.

It seems that they aren't considering giving out additional points for that, which is sensible. There's no real need for that. A driver, who wins all three sessions, is already earning more than enough.

[–] Lintson@aussie.zone 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yep I agree this would just be giving extra points to the dominant driver. Hardly exciting stuff.

If we're going to experiment with ideas that detract from pure racing I'd like to see constructor points awarded to teams that can keep both their cars within a place of each other on the grid. Could make for some interesting team orders but I can also see how it could be incredibly dangerous.

[–] Entropywins@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Imagine a scenario where a driver is told to give up track position for the extra constructor points...oof

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