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Discussion of climate, how it is changing, activism around that, the politics, and the energy systems change we need in order to stabilize things.

As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world.  About 1C of total warming.  Second chart:  about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability.  Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases.  About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 46 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (4 children)

no one did anything about that exxon report from the 80s that predicted pretty much everything that's happened with the climate, so....

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 21 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

The fossil fuels industry has been able to buy enough power to block most action. We did get the Inflation Reduction Act, as well as other executive-branch actions in the past few years though.. It's not yet enough, but if we can attain just a touch more political power, it'll be possible to do a lot more.

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 weeks ago

That’s basically the roadmap for how we’re going to operate going forward

[–] houseofleft@slrpnk.net 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I know your comment is satirical so I don't really want to take it in bad faith, but all the same. . . .

Lots of people are working reeaaally hard at changing society for the better, and reducing environmental catastrophe, the studies from the 80s sparked soneof the biggest environmental groups we have today (the likes of Green Peace and Friends of the Earth).

Lots of other people, often with money, are cynically blocking the protection of the human race for their own gain. And the majority of people are caught between these groups, often feeling despondent.

My point is, don't get despondent, get involved! You can join the first groups efforts today, and it you do, you'll be concretely helping the survival of our planet and society.

If you're interested in specifics, both Green Peace and Just Stop Oil hold regular monthly/weekly welcome to all sessions (if you know about others, post them here!)

[–] Chocrates@lemmy.world 25 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

When do we as a society say that a corporation has done so much damage they need to be taken a apart.

When do the execs that hid this information get prosecuted for destroying the future of our children?

[–] basmati@lemmus.org 10 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

When we as a society realize the governments we've made are inadequate and do things sans government approval. Not advocating for anything that is distasteful to any neolib moderation reading, of course.

[–] john_lemmy@slrpnk.net 8 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Are you sure we can't just vote harder somehow? Like, vote, but really really mean it.

[–] huskypenguin@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 weeks ago

The answer is obviously with the markets.

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

There's an idea! Or maybe we shouldn't vote. They might be on to us. Here's the plan, we don't vote then surprise sneak attack vote. They will never see it coming.

Edit: Much like my friend here. I don't understand what voting is.

[–] stembolts@programming.dev 4 points 3 weeks ago

Of course. Because as we know, every positive event in history has occurred while holding hands and respectfully requesting what was required.

[–] psud@aussie.zone 5 points 3 weeks ago

We're too fat and happy to be doing anti corporation revolutions

[–] RacoonVegetable@reddthat.com 10 points 3 weeks ago
[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 7 points 3 weeks ago

Tbh we've known for at least a hundred years.

[–] hsdkfr734r@feddit.nl 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

So they poisoned the well, you say? Alright. I will go and get my pitchfork.

[–] Pandantic@midwest.social 2 points 3 weeks ago

And we’re holding big oil accountable for this double hurricane that just happened right?

Right?