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[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 88 points 3 weeks ago

For true believers who hear Musk talk but have paid little or no attention to Tesla's actual progress with autonomous driving technology, new car development, production ramping, or robotics, the event will have seemed like something of a success.

Fucking lol

[–] paw@feddit.org 31 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

As far as I understood, the robot taxis may start production by 2026 or 2027. Shouldn't we live all on Mars by then, according to Musk?

/s

[–] hakunawazo@lemmy.world 30 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Please state the nature of the transportational emergency.

[–] Psaldorn@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

If it didn't have Robert Picardos voice, I do not want

[–] hakunawazo@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

That's the reason why Elon wants to fly to Mars, to get a working Johnny cab instead of his ~~crap~~ cab. Now it makes all sense.

[–] SharkAttak@kbin.melroy.org 6 points 3 weeks ago

If you managed to shop Elon's face on it, it would've been perfect. Cause let's be honest, he'd totally do it.

[–] EnderMB@lemmy.world 21 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

The man can't release an affordable electric car, despite it being on his roadmap for over a decade. Cunt isn't releasing an affordable taxi lol

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 18 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Honestly, taxis don't need to be cheap, they need to be reliable. I'm sure a taxi company would be happy to spend $100k if it meant minimal maintenance and far less staff, since it would pay for itself pretty quickly.

The bigger question is, does it work? I'm guessing the answer to that is... no.

[–] tankplanker@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

The more I think about the 2 seater taxi that they showed off at this event, the more I think that was originally one of the prototypes for the affordable car.

[–] THX1138@lemmy.ml 11 points 3 weeks ago

Oh look con man trying to sell broken promises and cheap parlor tricks!

[–] vegeta@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] DrCake@lemmy.world 34 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Who would win. A cyberpunk looking “$30k” robotaxi or one speed bump/pot hole

[–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.melroy.org 21 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

In the future, there are no potholes or imperfections of any kind. The ground and buildings are smooth, shiny, and constantly maintained to perfection somehow. Everything looks like a starship.

[–] SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

Camera pans down to the lower levels. Dark illuminated streets are visible, illuminated by sparse sunlight that manages to find cracks in the starship like road above. Flickering mismatched neon signs offer work, with long lines of broken humans waiting to find any job not taken over by AI and Optimus robots.

[–] db2@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

Everything's chrome in the future!

[–] JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz 2 points 3 weeks ago

Of course, they will all be made of perfectly smooth glass because they will be Solar FREAKING roadways! Everyone knows this, duhh.

[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Yup, it's a concept car "robovan." And I think it looks gross.

[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl -2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I don't want to yuck your yum but I think it looks badass. I think the concept is badass. I don't want to own a car but I also can't afford a chauffeur. We don't have much of any public transit in my area. Bike paths are making progress but still not what I would consider safe. An autonomous van that carries 20 passengers would be very cost-effective. It's not an ideal solution but may be the best one we could actually implement using existing infrastructure and without voter approval.

Also that bottom part appears to be a similar height to any typical car to me, and is supposedly just an aerodynamic skirt that will fold up if it actually hits anything. That's what I've read but obviously can't verify.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I think the concept is cool, and it would probably make a good replacement for buses. In my area, we have on-demand vans run by the org that runs the buses, and they basically take people to/from any transit stop in the area. A robovan would replace those, and potentially replace buses as well, and they could run more frequently because you don't need to have drivers.

So I absolutely like the idea, but I still think it looks dumb. Why screens instead of windows? Why does it look like it's from a video game?

[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl -1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Why screens instead of windows?

I mean theoretically you could use Miracast or similar technology to cast whatever you want onto those displays, whether that's watching movies/TV or doing work from your computer.

It has windows.

Why does it look like it's from a video game?

I mean why do vehicles from video games looks like they do? Because they're cool. You can say a lot of things about Tesla but you can't call them conventional. Sometimes that's good, and sometimes not so much. Beauty is subjective.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

It has windows.

On the sides, and they're like 1/3 of the total length of the vehicle, and on the ceiling. At least from the bit that I saw in the presentation. Buses today have much better visibility.

Because they’re cool

Nah, I think it's because it fits the art direction of the game. Cyberpunk has a certain feel, and GTA has another.

The robovan and the cybertruck don't match anything in the real world, or anything that came before. So it sticks out like an eyesore IMO.

But yeah, beauty is subjective, and I guess we'll see what it actually looks like if it ever hits the market.

[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl -1 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah, I mean it's like any art. I may not like it, but I appreciate diversity. In the case of the van, I actually like it. And where other autonomous companies are just taking existing vehicles and modifying them, Tesla represents a new way of thinking about autonomous transport from the ground up, much like they did with electric cars in general.

[–] marcos@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

As long as it's not a water poodle...

[–] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 6 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

When does it go into production? Whats the cost?

[–] circuscritic@lemmy.ca 26 points 3 weeks ago

When? Never

Cost? N/A

[–] kokesh@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

No one gives a flying F what that asshole says.

[–] kwozyman@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Unfortunately a lot of people do. So many people care they made him the richest person in the world. I always hated obscenely rich people, but there's something special with Musk, he manages to add insult to injury.

[–] Num10ck@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

look at the stock prices of Tesla Uber and Lyft today.

[–] kwozyman@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

Haha, had no idea, I don't watch the stock market

[–] _bcron_@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

That image is of the bus so it probably requires a 'fleet' type purchase alongside a maintenance contract

[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl 2 points 3 weeks ago

No statements on production for the robovan. Cost he said would be $0.05-0.10/mile, though unclear if that was to the owner or to the customer. Double that for the customer and it's still very cost effective.

[–] dirthawker0@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

I took a Waymo robotaxi in San Francisco a couple weeks ago. It was easy to use and I felt very safe; generally they drive like your granny. My second ride we ended up briefly stopped behind someone trying to do a left turn in an unexpected spot, and the car wavered left and right for a moment as it tried to decide what to do, not unlike human drivers. Given Tesla's not so great record on full self driving, I think given the choice I would probably stick with Waymo.

[–] Badeendje@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Of they end up releasing full self driving taxis before the Tesla's sold with fsd are done I can imagine people that bought fsd will take issue.

Also their stock price did not like the announcement.