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[–] bitofhope@awful.systems 37 points 1 month ago (2 children)

So the guy running WordPress.com (business model: Uber for LAMP stack, not to be confused with WordPress.org, winner of Drupal's Drag Race) is angry that WP Engine (business model: Lyft for LAMP stack, not to be confused with MediaWiki, the engine of WP) offers hosting for the same GPL licensed CMS as they do, am I understanding this correctly?

[–] bitofhope@awful.systems 31 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Also, I just now realized that Automattic (business model: Uber for not posting female-presenting nipples) is a pun on this guy's name.

[–] mawhrin@awful.systems 11 points 1 month ago (2 children)

and perhaps a little bow to lem's “cyberiad” (automateusz, translated as automatthew, from the story automatthew's friend)

[–] gerikson@awful.systems 11 points 1 month ago

I really really doubt it. It's a pun on his name.

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 6 points 1 month ago

yeah this guy doesn't seem bright enough for that

[–] self@awful.systems 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

my brain keeps telling me his social media username photomatt must be a pun for matte photo paper or matting your photos for an exhibit, but something tells me Matt thinks matting your own photos is for poor people (because it’s a lot of frustrating labor) and I doubt anyone’s demanding prints of his “rich boy with an expensive Nikon” photos

[–] arbitraryidentifier@awful.systems 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] self@awful.systems 4 points 1 month ago

you’re right! now I’m trying to think back to which kiosk chain was active in my area growing up. I do know they’d take my dad’s awfully shot film and make even worse prints, and that feels weirdly appropriate for Matt

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 6 points 1 month ago

matt spends his money on Leica kit, so that's the one good thing i've ever heard about him

[–] e8d79@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 1 month ago

I recognize this style. Shame they stopped posting their weekly hackernews sneer.

[–] mitexleo@buddyverse.one 36 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I really don't like what Matt is doing. Many developers are considering leaving the community.

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 1 month ago

Masterclass in foot shooting on display, really.

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 22 points 1 month ago

yep. Even if WP Engine disintegrated into dust tomorrow, Mullenweg would still be the guy that fucked with the open source alleged charity that everyone relied on for a business grudge. Undoing that requires getting rid of the dependency on wordpress.org or getting rid of Matt.

[–] Donut@leminal.space 15 points 1 month ago (5 children)

As someone who is running a simple WordPress portfolio / brochure style site, what are some alternatives?

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

there's a ton of 'em

the sticking point will be a plugin or theme you depend on

third-party WP dev is extremely widely available, but not so much for other CMSes

[–] bitofhope@awful.systems 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Some kind of a community fork might happen, but I wouldn't count on it.

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 8 points 1 month ago

there's https://www.classicpress.net/ but it doesn't have a ton of end users

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 month ago

I saw someone suggest Publii today, but I've never used it

[–] sue_me_please@awful.systems 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Depends on what you're doing with it. You could get away with a SSG for some use cases, but Wordpress with plugins can get pretty crazy and out of scope for simple SSGs.

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

or if you want comments edit: self-hosted, not third-party

[–] Moonrise2473@feddit.it 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Easy but intrusive option: disqus, most Hugo themes already support it and it doesn't require a server

Hard but Foss: isso, it requires a vps as it's in python, and literally zero Hugo themes support it so you have to edit their source to include it (not extremely hard, you just override the disqus part)

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 4 points 1 month ago

yeah, i should specify self-hosted - if I wanted third party I could just use any old shit at all levels

[–] jlow@beehaw.org 4 points 1 month ago

If it's a sinple site https://gohugo.io/ might be an option.

[–] Moonrise2473@feddit.it 3 points 1 month ago

Hugo

It doesn't make sense for a site that gets new content 3-4 times a year to get generated from scratch to each single visitor

[–] fasterandworse@awful.systems 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] Moonrise2473@feddit.it 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

More like took control and rebranded the ACF plugin

That's ridiculous

[–] fasterandworse@awful.systems 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 6 points 1 month ago

this coming week I'm meeting with a client that presently has a number of fairly large wordpress sites..

I suspect there's a lot of these discussions going on in places

[–] rook@awful.systems 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Guess he’s still pretty shaken by the car-covered-in-hammers incident.

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] rook@awful.systems 7 points 1 month ago

Not sure where there’s a good summary of the drama, but it started (I think) back in February with some serious concerns about transphobic moderation on tumblr. Openly trans user predstrogen posted

I hope photomatt dies forever a painful death involving a car covered in hammers that explodes more than a few times and hammers go flying everywhere

and he took it a bit too seriously, including banning them for dubious reasons then looking them up on twitter and listing all their old alt account names to their followers, because he’s totally not a transphobic stalker y’all and this is a reasonable thing to do when you’re worth half a billion.

[–] fasterandworse@awful.systems 4 points 1 month ago
[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

I read the whole thing.

Enh.

[–] vastard@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 1 month ago

ACF already had so many problems incorporating into Gutenberg. I can’t see SCF having any sort of future when the team maintaining it is actively developing a fundamentally different editor experience.