this post was submitted on 09 Oct 2024
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I've seen around 3 occasions of that this week, altho I have never seen anything like it before.

if I remember correctly they were:

  • smack talking a mod (FlyingSquid) for saying not to report the same comment twice, when they were different comments, and the report was spam
  • someone comparing .world with .ml in politics (as in there was a comment saying "this post will be overrun with .ml people, and then a comment going "but you are from .world") (Maybe Im part of the problem? I have been called out for being a fascist because I questioned the "puching nazis" theme)
  • one more which I can't remember.

Anyways, what is all that about? Are people really starting to hate on 50% of the lemmy population because of their instance?

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[–] x00za@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 6 days ago (8 children)
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[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 8 points 6 days ago (5 children)

My biggest problem with .world is that people will just make up whatever they want about the out-group and everyone just believes it without question and with no interest in examining the evidence. It's a toxic element of the site's culture that encourages circle-jerking and the automatic dismissal of opposing viewpoints while making intelligent and informed discussion impossible.

The moderation is also pretty heavy-handed with censorship and things get removed for "misinformation" pretty frequently just because the mods disagree with it. You don't have to go very far back in the modlog right now to find removed posts from Cowbee and Alcoholicorn, despite both backing up their arguments with published books from respectable authors. It's best to avoid engaging with the mods at all, I got banned from World News because a mod couldn't defend their position so they just banned me. There's a pretty clear bias towards NATO and the US.

But like I said my main issue is the first point, and I'll stop judging .worlders when I start to see people actually ask for evidence when someone says, "I saw a bunch of tankies eating kittens" instead of just blindly accepting it as fact because it's about an out-group.

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[–] EnderMB@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago (5 children)

Easy, because it's often home to some extreme and often bizarre opinions. It often makes Reddit seem civil and intellectual.

In the last month alone, I've seen:

  • Downvotes for suggesting that if you were to ask Big Tech to split, they'll probably just split in a way that keeps them aligned, while cutting unprofitable chunks out.
  • Downvotes for suggesting that TikTok shouldn't be banned for being "stupid", given that most social media is stupid, and people often said that about the shit that many of us grew up with.
  • Just endless nonsense about how you cannot print with Windows, like at all, while Linux (never stating a distro) "just works". It's clear that so many people in the tech community on lemmy.world haven't used Windows for years.
  • Crap about LLM's and how providers like OpenAI are "dumb", despite the fact that many use grounding and expert systems to guide towards correctness (literally what I work on in my job).
  • Being so US-centric AND contrarian that you regularly see posts around how "Europe is so much better for this", when Europe is a fucking continent with separate countries and their own laws/customs.
  • Posts about how we can get "normies" to use Lemmy

None of the above would happen on Reddit. They're all signs of communities that are detached from reality, so much so that on Mastodon there are several posts from people that have called Lemmy (basically meaning the "main" instance) out as being toxic and unfriendly compared to other fediverse offerings.

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[–] morphballganon@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago

There's a "civility" rule that frowns upon accurately identifying given users as belonging to certain groups

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