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[–] JFranek@awful.systems 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Just something I found in the wild (r/machine learning): Please point me in the right direction for further exploring my line of thinking in AI alignment

I'm not a researcher or working in AI or anything, but ...

you don't say

[–] bitofhope@awful.systems 10 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Alignment? Well, of course it depends on your organization's style guide but if you're using TensorFlow or PyTorch in Python, I recommend following PEP-8, which specifies four spaces per indent level and…

Wait, you're not working in AI the what are you even asking for?

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[–] o7___o7@awful.systems 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Many thanks to @blakestacey and @YourNetworkIsHaunted for your guidance with the NSF grant situation. I've sent an analysis of the two weird reviews to our project manager and we have a list of personnel to escalate with if we can't get any traction at that level. Fingers crossed that we can be the pebble that gets an avalanche rolling. I'd really rather not become a character in this story (it's much more fun to hurl rotten fruit with the rest of the groundlings), but what else can we do when the bullshit comes and finds us in real life, eh?

It WAS fun to reference Emily Bender and On Bullshit in the references of a serious work document, though.

Edit: So...the email server says that all the messages are bouncing back. DKIM failure?

Edit2: Yep, you're right, our company email provider coincidentally fell over. When it rains, it pours (lol).

Edit3: PM got back and said that he's passed it along for internal review.

[–] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 week ago

I'd really rather not become a character in this story

Good luck. In my experience you can't speak up about stuff like this without putting yourself out there to some degree. Stay strong.


Regarding the email bounceback, could you perhaps try sending an email from another address (with a different host) to the same destination to confirm it's not just your "sending" server?

The bounceback should have info in it on the cause, and DKIM issues should result in a complaint response from the denying recipient server.

[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 11 points 5 days ago (7 children)

In other news, an AI booster got publicly humilitated after prompting complete garbage and mistaking it for 8-bit animation:

prompt ratio

And now, another sidenote, because I really like them apparently:

This is gut instinct like my previous sidenote, but I suspect that this AI bubble will cause the tech industry (if not tech as a whole) to be viewed as fundamentally hostile to artists and fundamentally lacking in art skills/creativity, if not outright hostile to artists and incapable of making (or even understanding) art.

Beyond the slop-nami flooding the Internet with soulless shit whose creation was directly because of tech companies like OpenAI, its also given us shit like:

[–] V0ldek@awful.systems 11 points 4 days ago (4 children)

This response from her. Lol. Lmao.

can you and all your anti-ai bots just block me? we get it, you hate ai art

What a misunderstood wee lil smol bean, waah

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Even in the still image that dog's legs look like a first draft Minecraft centipede.

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[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 11 points 4 days ago (2 children)

neil turkewitz coming in with a wry comment about AI's legal issues:

And, because this is becoming so common, another sidenote from me:

With the large-scale art theft that gen-AI has become thoroughly known for, how the AI slop it generates has frequently directly competed with its original work (Exhibit A), the solid legal case for treating the AI industry's Biblical-scale theft as copyright infringement and the bevvy of lawsuits that can and will end in legal bloodbaths, I fully expect this bubble will end up strengthening copyright law a fair bit, as artists and megacorps alike endeavor to prevent something like this ever happening again.

Precisely how, I'm not sure, but to take a shot in the dark I suspect that fair use is probably gonna take a pounding.

[–] gerikson@awful.systems 9 points 4 days ago

To my mind, the cover of "researchers" using the public internet to seed products commercialized by OpenAI and friends is the biggest betrayal of fair use in recent memory. The big companies cynically exploited the research exception to fair use and possibly destroyed in the future.

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[–] hrrrngh@awful.systems 9 points 5 days ago

Oh look! Human horrors ~~beyond~~ regrettably within my comprehension

https://x.com/haveibeenpwned/status/1843780415175438817

Tweet descriptionNew sensitive breach: "AI girlfriend" site Muah[.]ai had 1.9M email addresses breached last month. Data included AI prompts describing desired images, many sexual in nature and many describing child exploitation. 24% were already in @haveibeenpwned . More: https://404media.co/hacked-ai-girlfriend-data-shows-prompts-describing-child-sexual-abuse-2/

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 9 points 6 days ago (4 children)

check out this jumpscare suckerpunch mashup

some of the details are so on point I’m almost left pointing and mouthing “art”

[–] bitofhope@awful.systems 11 points 5 days ago (1 children)

First-ever criminal charges against financial services firms for market manipulation and “wash trading” in the cryptocurrency industry

Cryptocurrency is a 15-year old industry built mostly on market manipulation and wash trading and now we're seeing the first charges for it? Man, back in the day they told me doing crime was illegal.

Deflationary

With every transaction supply shrinks by burning a percentage of reflections to the burn wallet

Turns out libertarians actually love taxes, but only if instead of spending the tax money on anything, it's burned to waste.

Further proof that at least some of these people don't have a problem with losing money, they have a problem with other people receiving it.

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Fraudster: "the “objective on the secondary markets” is to find “other buyers from the community, people you don’t know about or don’t care about” because “we have to make [the other buyers] lose money in order to make profit.”"

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[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 8 points 3 days ago
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