this post was submitted on 06 Oct 2024
110 points (97.4% liked)

News

23310 readers
5390 users here now

Welcome to the News community!

Rules:

1. Be civil


Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban. Do not respond to rule-breaking content; report it and move on.


2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.


Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. We have an actively updated blocklist, which you can see here: https://lemmy.world/post/2246130 if you feel like any website is missing, contact the mods. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.


3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.


Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.


4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.


Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.


5. Only recent news is allowed.


Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.


6. All posts must be news articles.


No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.


7. No duplicate posts.


If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.


8. Misinformation is prohibited.


Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.


9. No link shorteners.


The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.


10. Don't copy entire article in your post body


For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
top 14 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] taiyang@lemmy.world 32 points 1 month ago (3 children)

"Milo's Poultry Farms is in Bonduel, Wisconsin, about 29 miles north of Green Bay."

Saved you a click if you're worried it's near you.

[–] protist@mander.xyz 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

According to the FDA, all carton sizes with expiration dates of Oct. 12 and earlier for following brand eggs are being recalled:

Milo's Poultry Farms

M&E Family Farms

Tony's Fresh Market

The alert also includes duck eggs brand Happy Quackers Farm sold in a 12-count carton, packaged by Milo's Poultry Farms.

The investigation said these states had reported cases linked to the outbreak:

  • California
  • Colorado
  • Iowa
  • Illinois
  • Michigan
  • Minnesota
  • Utah
  • Virginia
  • Wisconsin
[–] lolrightythen@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

Good to know. I was assuming northeast and this is much closer

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Why just dont take better care of chickens in the first place?
(We all know there is enough profit to allow that & much more.)

Bcs your laws says you don't have to?

I remember how much political pressure there was on EU to lower our standards & allow poultry imports from USA on the cheap.

[–] protist@mander.xyz 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

This has nothing to do with how chickens are taken care of. Salmonella naturally occurs in chickens and is totally harmless to them. In the US, we wash our eggs, which eliminates the salmonella but requires the eggs be refrigerated for storage. In most of the EU, eggs are unwashed, but the chickens are vaccinated against salmonella. Washed eggs can be refrigerated and stored for almost 2 months, where unwashed eggs last about 3 weeks.

Plenty salmonella outbreaks related to eggs still happen in the EU also.

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 5 points 1 month ago

I was curious, it seems we have a prevalence goal of about 2% (which is achieved/maintained, but a bit less than two decades ago something changed & caused a spike). US follows the cases reported via health organisations and the human results are about the same.

From 1 January 2008, all Member States with Salmonella prevalence above 10% will have to vaccinate their laying hens against Salmonella, in order to reduce the spread of the disease and the contamination of eggs. The vaccinations used must be authorised at EU level, and must be distinguishable from the field bacteria during sampling and testing. National authorities may exempt a holding from this vaccination requirement provided satisfactory preventive measures are being applied or there has been no incidence of Salmonella on the holding over the previous 12 months.

ec.europa.eu

[–] MeThisGuy@feddit.nl 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

what about unwashed refrigerated eggs?

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I def use them after 3 weeks (prob 5 if bought fresh), but always do the floaty & smelly tests (bcs I'm picky, not bcs of Ella salmon).

[–] Theoriginalthon@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago (3 children)

You know over here in Europe we don't have to refrigerate egg or wash slaughtered chicken in a chlorine bath. We use something called a vaccine that prevents salmonella in the first place

[–] protist@mander.xyz 12 points 1 month ago

Bro, there are hundreds of egg-related salmonella outbreaks across Europe every year.

[–] JohnnyCanuck@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 month ago

I agree, mostly, but...

  1. We wash our eggs in Canada and the USA (and a few other places) for more than just salmonella. It's mostly salmonella, but there are other bacterium and stuff that can be on the outside of the eggs after they roll around in chicken shit (hyperbolicly). The washing removes the protective bloom so we then have to refrigerate our eggs. In countries that don't do this, you should still wash your eggs right before using them and your hands after handling them.

  2. The extent of this particular recall indicates something happened in the packaging process that wouldn't necessarily have been solved by vaccines. It seems like something got contaminated and then contaminated the eggs post washing. Vaccines would probably reduce the risk of having any contaminated surfaces (since there would be less chance of salmonella being brought in) but we don't know the source of the contamination at this point.

  3. You still get salmonella outbreaks and illness (from eggs and meat) in Europe. The vaccine isn't 100% effective, there can be new strains, mishandled products, or even specific farms that get an infection and introduce it into the system. So just keep in mind that while the strategies are different both have been effective in reducing the amount of downstream illness (though it is slightly better in Europe, I believe).

[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah but if they did that, farmers would have to spend an extra couple of cents of their government subsidies per chicken and then the health insurance industry would make a load less money from exploiting people hospitalised with entirely avoidable illnesses..!

Genuinely wouldn't be surprised if health insurance lobbying is part of the reason it's this way

[–] protist@mander.xyz 7 points 1 month ago

I get the cynicism, but the reality is that the system of washing eggs in the US was incredibly effective at reducing salmonella-related illness so we stuck with it. The data demonstrates both systems are about equally effective at preventing salmonella exposure. Similar salmonella outbreaks still happen in the EU's system, too