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Fucking dumbass media - he wasn't polished or slick... he was smarmy.
It's a shame that stupid people are so easily manipulated. We shouldn't be so permissive and accepting of blatant lies.
It's fascinating to watch. Vance, the old-school spin doctor, using euphemism, misdirection and weaseling to not-techincally-lie (eg, we want a national "standard" for abortion, not a national ban) versus Trump who just goes all-out loud, easily disproven, total bullshit. And that side seems to like Trump better, like they've been trained to recognize the used-car-salesman shtick, so it makes them uncomfortable even if they don't recognize the lies, but the loud liar just cows any chance of disbelief with sheer volume.
I feel like there's really interesting psychology to study there, among the...let's say "reality challenged" population, if anyone could figure out how to recruit them.
as I have climbed higher in the corporate world, this is becoming clearer and clearer. people respond far better to a confident idiot than they do a pensive expert.
I was literally told this the other day.
My success isn't based off my expertise, but how confident I sound.
It didn't feel good to hear.
you know what else is slick:
snake oil
Well...Vance is more like leather conditioner, but snake oil works.
At least someone calls it out. Everyone else seems far too impressed Vance didn't make gay/tampon jokes about Walz at this particular venue.
Walz would have made a comment concerning Vance and couches back. Probably smart of him not to stoke that kind of fire, especially with how bad Trump looked vs Harris. But yeah, his actual words were trash and should be called out as such.
That was kind of my takeaway too. I hope people get the sense he's a liar, but ultimately I imagine most of the night is forgettable. The main goal for Vance is name recognition in 4 years while also not offending Trump, and he kind of did that.
You know, I used to be a little like him when I was younger and that style does work when you have at least an ounce of charisma. But then I stopped being a fuckboy and started growing real relationships; being a smooth liar is a hollow existence.
The Guardian has been pretty spicy lately.
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https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/oct/02/jd-vance-debate-performance
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/favorability/jd-vance/