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[–] Lets_Eat_Grandma@lemm.ee 9 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

Mozilla isn't google. They took it back and encouraged the guy to reach out in the future if any issues arise.

BFD, it's not like they banned his account, just one gimped extension that doesn't do the whole ad blocking experience and even then only because he didn't do anything to try and reverse it. Then after it's restored he throws his tantrum and removes it.

With all the extensions out there false positive detections of malicious apps are going to happen. Nobody has unlimited resources to hire boatloads of devs to review every single line of code of every extension for every update done. That's an insane expectation.

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[–] Findmysec@infosec.pub 28 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

This one is completely on Mozilla. TBH I'm not very happy with their governance either. Stop spending money on bullshit and start working on the damn browser. Stop hassling devs like him who have had an immense contribution to not only open source, but your fucking browser's usage metrics.

I wish another browser standard comes up and we can say goodbye to this google-infested shit-bucket that is mozilla.

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 15 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Ok, but "google-infested shit-buckets" are also Chrome and all the chromium poop cups, even more so one might say.

Not disagreeing, especially with the sad sentiment of what's happening at Mozilla, just trying to keep in mind the other 95% of the browser picture.

[–] Findmysec@infosec.pub 11 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Which is why I'd like to see a third player. I don't use Chrome except for ungoogled chromium when the other browsers are tied up

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 0 points 4 hours ago

Yes, as said, Im agreeing, I was just pointing out the sad reality of what the majority is doing (and like it or not, that affects us all).
I'd love a legit third choice (again)!

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[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 33 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

There's a dozen Firefox extensions that really matter, at any given time. Mozilla has never appeared to give a particular shit about any of them. Paying special attention based on popularity wouldn't be ideal, but for fuck's sake, their passive-aggressive treatment keeps burning out the developers who fuel their ecosystem, and it would take vanishingly little effort to shield their keystone plugins.

If their active neglect had ruined both uBlock and DownThemAll - I'm not sure I'd be using Firefox anymore, and I've been using Firefox since before it was called Firefox. Why the fuck would anyone normal even consider it?

[–] BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works 10 points 13 hours ago (4 children)

DownThemAll is one of those extensions which get installed immediately for me. If I didn't have DownThemAll and uBlock origin, I'd might as well just use edge smh

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 9 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

And the author spent a year hassling Mozilla about how killing XUL plugins would make his wildly popular plugin nearly impossible. Did they move one iota to help that? Nope. Did they adopt DTA functionality natively, like they'd absorbed Pocket? Did they fuck. Their mantra for two straight decades has been "just rewrite!" and they cannot imagine why they kept hemorrhaging devs and plugins and users once Chrome slimed its way into everyone's options.

[–] logging_strict@lemmy.ml 2 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

my votes are for nusensor, popupblocker, dark reader, nuke anything

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[–] Xiisadaddy@lemmygrad.ml 51 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

That poor dev is just getting so much shit thrown their way constantly having a short temper about it makes sense. They are fighting against an entire industry to make the internet usable for people. I hope everyone who has the means to donates to support the ~~developer~~

Edit: donate to block list maintainers thanks to lemmyvore below for the correction

[–] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 39 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

The dev has not made available any means to donate to him directly. He asks that people donate to the maintainers of the block lists instead.

[–] Xiisadaddy@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 16 hours ago

thank you i updated my comment

[–] vintageballs@feddit.org 63 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

Probably due to automatic extension reviews by Mozilla.

Sad that it happened, but at least it doesn't impact the actual uBlock, only the lite version for which I honestly see no purpose in Firefox anyways.

[–] Virkkunen@fedia.io 74 points 21 hours ago (4 children)

It was a manual review conducted by an actual person that in the end admitted they were wrong

[–] vintageballs@feddit.org 24 points 21 hours ago (7 children)
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[–] 0x0@programming.dev 11 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

I honestly see no purpose in

It's to circumvent ManifestV3.

[–] Neon@lemmy.world 11 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Manifest v2 still works on Firefox, so OP was right, it's useless

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[–] obinice@lemmy.world 8 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

I thought that was the shit Chrome was doing to block adblockers and antimalware plugins, if Firefox is doing the same thing what browser do we use now? :-(

I don't care about all the browser wars stuff, I lost interest when it was Netscape Vs IE, I just want a browser that I can configure fully myself and have it be as safe and secure as one can make it, within reason.

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 11 points 17 hours ago

Firefox is not eliminating MV2 extensions. You can stick with Firefox.

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[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Gorhill is free to do whatever he wants, of course, I thank him for all the good work. But his reaction is honestly childish and dangerous for the community. Once again his decision to pull the plug opens the door to abusers. Now when you go to the addons page and search for uBlock, you may find illegitimate extensions pretending to be uBlock which are trying to collect your data or worse. Less tech say people don't know any better.

[–] kbal@fedia.io 127 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

The discourse about Mozilla is ridiculous, here and most everywhere. You've got people taking every perceived opportunity to attack them for things they do, things they didn't do, and things it's imagined they might've done. And then another crowd of equally determined people doggedly defending them for every idiotic blunder they make, such as this one.

Meanwhile Mozilla itself has nothing substantial to say. This is not the first time a prominent extension has mysteriously gone missing from amo with Mozilla telling us nothing about its role in the incident. @mozilla@mozilla.social needs to be in the discussion giving us a real explanation of what happened, why they got it wrong, and what they're doing to improve things.

[–] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 43 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

Correct, this two-sided discourse is due to a massive lack of communication on Mozilla's part, leaving room for speculation.

[–] abbenm@lemmy.ml 10 points 13 hours ago

The best I can think of is that the explainer language used to justify the extension's removal was just boilerplate language that got copy+pasted here because someone clicked the wrong button. But even that makes a mockery of the review process.

I think "oops clicked wrong button" would be slightly more defensible, but not by much. If they truly rejected the extension for content in it that it does not have, it's hard to see how a human could make that mistake even accidentally. But maybe there's something I'm missing.

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[–] featured@lemmygrad.ml 19 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Mozilla.social no longer exists, Mozilla took it down

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[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 25 points 12 hours ago

We have collectively agreed that Mozilla is a) not reviewing extentions enough, and b) reviewing too much.

[–] slazer2au@lemmy.world 86 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Oh so ublock origin lite. A manifest V3 compatible adblocker for chromium browsers.
The original ublock origin is unaffected

[–] abbenm@lemmy.ml 9 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Firefox will be adopting Manifest V3, but a modded version that enables ad blocking.

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[–] data1701d@startrek.website 39 points 12 hours ago

I almost had a panic attack until I realized this was for UBlock Origin Lite rather than the normal, manifest v2 version. Still mad at Mozilla,though.

[–] UnfortunateShort@lemmy.world 34 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

This is more likely someone fucking up and not having a second pair of eyes look at the presumed problem than anything else.

[–] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net 11 points 7 hours ago

I dont get why you would run that on Firefox. Users will find the corrent one, all good.

Btw is the uBlock without Origin addon still there?

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