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Mozilla Thunderbird for Android is now available in beta, built upon the K-9 Mail app.

The beta includes core email features like account setup, email organization, and notifications, with feedback encouraged from users.

Thunderbird for Android will remain a separate app from K-9 Mail, requiring users to migrate if they previously used K-9.

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[–] Don_alForno@feddit.org 7 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

Noob question:

Is there any advantage over my phone's stock email client, considering 99% of my emails are confirmation emails from online shops and similar stuff and I hardly ever actually send an email to anyone or receive one from an actual person anymore?

[–] tay404@mstdn.social 3 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

@Don_alForno @AnActOfCreation AFAIK, some clients can block external trackers and block images from loading (because images can have trackers)

I don't know if it'd benefit you tremendously, but it's worth the shot imho. but that's because I love trying out new apps lol

[–] hector@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 hours ago

Not for you indeed ! But for me who works on code project through email this is exciting :)

And for people who work in pokitics/administrative stuff, they use a SHIT TON of emails

Not even mentioning people in university

[–] pixelscript@lemm.ee 42 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

For anyone who was using K-9 wondering why Thunderbird looks no different, it's because they aren't different.

They build both apps from the exact same codebase. Only difference between the two are the default color scheme, the branding icons, and the text strings of the application's name. It's literally just a choice of which brand skin you prefer.

Which, honestly, kinda cool. A virtually zero-cost way to keep a few K-9 stans happy.

[–] 30p87@feddit.org 7 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

As long as it's compliant with Thunderbird, eg. using the same autoconfig at /mail/config-v1.1.xml, I'm happy.

[–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 4 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I cannot imagine that it would support that. Android generally does not give its users root access...

[–] 30p87@feddit.org 7 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

No, autoconfig is a way for mail servers to tell clients the config they should use (ports, ssl/starttls, username, name/domain of the server, authentication for imap, pop and smtp). There are multiple standards by different mail client devs, eg. Thunderbird, K-9 Mail and some other check for autoconfig./mail/config-v1.1.xml and outlook etc. check for a "autodiscover" SRV record, or use autodiscover. or check /autodiscover/autodiscover.xml. As you see, it's a mess. Well, only Outlooks "standard" is, as usually you wouldn't care because M$ Winshit ~~Crasher~~ Server does that automatically, so they don't care about good docs. Thunderbirds autoconfig is pretty well made and documented tho.

[–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 7 points 11 hours ago

Oh right, that's a server URL path, I thought it was just some config file one would have on their Linux host.

And this says that K-9 supports the same autoconfig as Thunderbird, so presumably the rebranded app would, too: https://forum.k9mail.app/t/autodiscover-autoconfig/7118

[–] InFerNo@lemmy.ml 1 points 48 minutes ago

Literally running into this problem. I have a microsoft account with shared calendar and just can't seem to add it to the outlook app. It keeps trying to go to my domain. There's a button to specify the provider, outlook, but it just won't do it. Can't tell what this closed source garbage is doing wrong, it shows the manual entry fields with my server's info entered wrongfully.

[–] Cris_Color@lemmy.world 18 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

https://github.com/thunderbird/thunderbird-android/releases/tag/THUNDERBIRD_8_0b1

Here's the release page if you wanna grab it from github :)

Edit: Didn't intend that to be a winky face, not trying to be smug 😅

[–] scrion@lemmy.world 12 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (6 children)

Honestly, if you're in the audience for Thunderbird on Android, you probably also want to have a look at FairMail ~~instead~~.

Edit: phrasing

[–] ISOmorph@feddit.org 25 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Why? What does FairMail do better? The headline says it's privacy oriented, but so is k-9.

[–] johant@lemmy.ml 6 points 15 hours ago

I'd say customizability. Haven't used k-9 since I found FairEmail so can't really say anything about how it is now but it used to be pretty bare bones. At least compared to FairEmail.

[–] d_k_bo@feddit.org 4 points 13 hours ago

I love FairEmail's simplified mail viewer that doesn't render HTML mails completely and they look more like an enhanced plain text mail instead.

[–] jetsetdorito@lemm.ee 10 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I've really tried to use it, im sorry it's just so ugly

[–] m4m4m4m4@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago

I agree, it's kind of funny in their website claim they don't put "bells and whistles" in their UI yet it looks way cluttered compared to K-9/Thunderbird.

No doubt it can work better than the aforementioned but it'd be nice if their devs could be a bit humble and recognize its UI could get some love and it would be beneficial for FairEmail.

[–] onlooker@lemmy.ml 9 points 14 hours ago

I'm sure it's a very capable email client, but the UI just didn't mesh well with me.

[–] Undertaker@feddit.org 6 points 15 hours ago
[–] pedroapero@lemmy.ml 4 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I uninstalled it quickly after finding out it was trialware (missing features; popups to pay)

[–] scrion@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

If I remember correctly, you should be able to just install the GitHub version.

[–] HeerlijkeDrop@thebrainbin.org 3 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I'd love FairMail for desktop Linux

[–] howler@lemmy.zip -1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

They have a desktop for Linux??? I've been using it for years and I only get to learn this now! I'm going to try it immediately lmao. Thank you!!

[–] IllNess@infosec.pub 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

You misunderstood. they said they would love a desktop version, not that they love the desktop version

[–] howler@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 hour ago

I noticed after a couple of minutes hahah

[–] rhys@lemmy.rhys.wtf 2 points 16 hours ago

Nice to see progress, but so far it seems indistinguishable from K-9.

The feature to import settings from K-9 doesn't work for me, possibly as a consequence of running CalyxOS.

[–] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 1 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

I couldn't find it on froid

[–] baggins@beehaw.org 3 points 14 hours ago

'You can download Thunderbird Beta on the Google Play Store, or get the latest pre-release version from the Github Releases page.'

[–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago

It's just launched today in beta. I'd expect it to be there eventually, but you can grab it from GitHub if you want to try it.

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world -1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Won't appear. Mozilla is a bitch about trademarks.

[–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 6 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Well, an unbranded build would be perfectly possible, like how "Fennec" is just a build of Firefox. In case they continue to release updates for K-9, that would be an unbranded app right there...

[–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

They have said that they will continue to release identical versions of each in the immediate future.

[–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 1 points 11 hours ago

Cool, that seems like the best way to handle this.

[–] jeena@piefed.jeena.net 13 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

OK, I switched. I don't know if it's a placebo because it looks identical but ut feels smoother.

[–] Cris_Color@lemmy.world 13 points 17 hours ago

For me it definitely looks different, are you sure you have the new version...? They've updated a lot of the UI elements to material design 3, but kept all the same layout and whatnot

I really like it so far! Feels like a really welcome refresh

[–] deadsuperhero@lemmy.ml 5 points 17 hours ago

So excited about this! It looks and feels great.

[–] sub_ubi@lemmy.ml 0 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

Anyone make the switch from Aquamail?

[–] j4yt33@feddit.org 2 points 16 hours ago

I'm interested in Thunderbird but I've been very happy with aquamail, so no reason to switch