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And no generation in American history has been as selfish as the boomers.

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[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 45 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

The idea that violent and traumatic environments lead to strong people making good choices always seemed pretty stupid to me.

[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Yeah it just creates transgenerational trauma.

[–] Shard@lemmy.world 18 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Because during bad times the ones that make bad decisions don't survive or at very least are removed from positions of power.

Bad times by themselves do not create good decision makers.

[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Because during bad times the ones that make bad decisions don’t survive or at very least are removed from positions of power.

The ones best equipped to get in positions of power during "bad times" are bad people willing to put their ambitions above basic human decency.

[–] SurpriZe@lemm.ee 3 points 6 hours ago

Why is this so hard to understand?

[–] stabby_cicada@slrpnk.net 1 points 26 minutes ago

Because during bad times the ones that make bad decisions don't survive or at very least are removed from positions of power.

It's more common for bad leaders to make the bad decisions that cause the bad times, and then either be deposed by violence or cling to power with violence, making everything worse. See Stalin, Mao, and also the entire history of sub-Saharan Africa after colonialism.

I'm certainly not a fan of American electoral democracy, but one can say that at least it's mostly peaceful and allows in theory the people to make a choice between qualified and vetted candidates. In "hard times" the mechanisms created by civil society to select competent leaders tend to break down. So rather than removing bad leaders from power in hard times, it becomes even harder to remove such leaders, and even harder to determine whether a leader is good or bad until after he's in charge of the army's salary.

[–] benignintervention@lemmy.world 12 points 15 hours ago

Because of this meme I spent the past 2 hours watching Tim Robinson sketches

[–] HenchmanNumber3@lemm.ee 52 points 19 hours ago (4 children)

It's the most Gen X thing that Gen X gets left out of the generation wars and couldn't give a damn.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 5 points 5 hours ago

You're included in boomers, literal grandpas. Same way Millenials and zoomers are grouped.

[–] adam_y@lemmy.world 23 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I have a theory that our job is just to get out of the way when the boomers die off.

Hand over the power to the next gen.

Maybe let us have some basic income and our first gen consoles and we'll be cool.

[–] qprimed@lemmy.ml 5 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

gotta agree. I think we are suppressive fire support. I am good with that. gonna smash that trigger 'til I get a thermal jam.

[–] Psychodelic@lemmy.world 10 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Their motto is literally whatever. It's unfortunate but I wonder how much they even try to properly inform themselves at this point.

Tbf, many have families and homes that require them to submit themselves fully to the brutal dick of capitalism and relinquish all else, unlike millennials and gen z. Because of that, I'm pretty sure if given the choice, gen x would absolutely prefer to fight to maintain the status quo as they're fully committed to it - that is to say, many likely believe "this is just the way things are" and things are only bad if you're lazy or you lose your government-issued bootstraps therefore fundamental change like we've never seen before isn't needed and is actually a radical position to hold.

It's a bit of a bummer since they have tons of experience and executive function skills later generations seem to lack/struggle with

[–] qprimed@lemmy.ml 10 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

gen x here. mortgage, kids, etc. more than happy to exorcize the poltergeist of late stage capitalism with a nice focused, deep burn - if I can improve the future for my kids (and, perhaps, yours) I am ok with personal pain.

I know this sounds trite, but my commitment is to a better future, not my mortgage. you later alphabet soup peeps need to show up at the fucking polls and vote. show the power you have. I promise, TPTB will start paying attention - because you are coming for them.

a coalition of generations is needed here. I propbably wont be here for the worst of climate change, so those that will... vote and put your ideas out there. I think there is more gen x support for you than you think.

[–] Psychodelic@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

You're probably right. I just worry uninformed angry people are ripe for being taken advantage of.

And for sure I totally don't mean absolutely everyone in either gen - that's never the case. I guess i just look at my older bro and he looks way beyond capacity (44 w/ a 1+2 yr olds) to expect him to do stuff like read and educate himself. Idk, maybe that's just not his thing regardless.

I absolutely salute parents out there, doing the whole thing though. I'm still just barely trying to take care of myself

[–] Pot8o@slrpnk.net 7 points 17 hours ago

As a GenX I'd say you're probably not too wrong about many of us but there's still many that are very anti-establishment. If you're unionised check out some of your most militant union folks, chances are they'll be GenX. As for those executive function skills...my super late ADHD diagnosis would like a word if I remember/want to take my meds :/

[–] macrocarpa@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago

Shhhhh if we keep quiet they won't notice and we won't have to do anything

[–] Taalnazi@lemmy.world 26 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

The true people who create hard times are the rich. They do this through control of media narratives, financing, and buying up local stores in favour of soulless megastores!

[–] Hegar@fedia.io 16 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

The real cycle is:

Rich people create hard times, hard times create more poor people, rich people create more hard times.

[–] Linssiili@sopuli.xyz 3 points 8 hours ago

Correction to the second phase: hard times create more poor people while making rich people richer

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 1 points 15 hours ago

Mmm yes everyone turn against each other so you can't unite to change anything

[–] CazzoneArrapante@lemm.ee -5 points 14 hours ago

70s, 80s and 90s = golden age of humanity. Time should be taken back to those times on a loop forever.

inb4 "muh Reagan muh AIDS muh Cold War" lol don't care