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[–] lynny@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

People really don't take the fascist threat seriously. It's like just because Trump isn't president and fascists are banned on social media, people seem to think fascism isn't growing and spreading. Out of sight out of mind.

Like it or not fascism is growing and has been at an alarming rate over the past decade. We can either ignore the problem and mock them or realize they are a serious political threat that has lots of political power already.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

fascists are banned on social media

They are? One owns twitter. Qanon bullshit flourishes on facebook. reddit kept the_donald around for years after they helped organize the unite the right nazi rally.

[–] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] SpaceMonk@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

People don’t get that Buchenwald was a place specifically built for the murder and burning of innocent human beings. Nazis planned a massive facility to eliminate human beings who did nothing wrong.

Think about that. Think if you were an engineer in a room full of other engineers and you were trying to figure out how much fuel was needed to burn X amount of humans in X amount of days.

Women and children. Burned alive for being born a non-Christian. Remember Nazis were cultist Christians.

That is some really sick shit. And fascist Americans are the legacy of THAT mixed with the Confederacy.

[–] TechyDad@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Having visited the Holocaust museum in Washington DC - something I'd recommend everyone do if possible, though you'll need a lot of time to recover emotionally - I know that the big thing that allowed all that to happen was dehumanization.

During my visit, I walked through one of the train cars used to transport Jews to the death camps. The plaque said how many people were crammed inside, but I couldn't picture that many people in that tiny train car.

Then, I realized my problem. I was trying to fit PEOPLE. Even if the people I was trying to fit in the train car were imaginary, I was still treating them like people. I switched to trying to fit human shaped luggage and suddenly I had plenty of room.

So when Republicans dehumanize groups, for example, by calling LGBTQ people "child groomers," then I recognize it as Step 1 in doing some really bad things to them. Once you've convinced enough of the public that a certain group of people aren't really people, you can do anything to them.

It's extremely scary and it's happening here. We're not at the "LGBTQ/Jews/political opponents sent to death camps" stage yet, but we're on the path to that and need to turn around quickly. The further we go down the path, the harder it will be to get away from that horrible ending.

[–] Machinist@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

I wish more people on the left realized this. It's been my experience that a lot of the left are insulated from just how big a threat the Nat-C's really are. Most people lack the historical knowledge to see just how spooky the similarities between the rise of Nazi Germany and events in the US over the last few years. The Beer Hall Putsch and the response to it are frighteningly similar to January 6th.

Due to the rural/urban divide, even in red states, most of the left aren't seeing or hearing how far off the deep end a big chunk of this country has gone. I'm a redneck, have a heavy southern accent, beard, truck and most of the other stereotypes. People just assume I'm conservative.

The shit strangers just say to me is unreal. "Putting the n*****s back in their place, only good democrat is a dead democrat, the Storm is coming and then they'll see."

The racism has gotten worse, or at least way more open, people didn't used to be so openly racist even when they thought they were only talking to likeminded individuals. I almost never heard anti-Semitism until a few years ago, there are so few Jews in the south it just wasn't much of a thing. Baptists tended to support Israel. Now they're getting talking points from whatever Q-hole they're feeding from and talk about Jewish conspiracies. I can only think of a couple of times I heard Jew-bashing. One was an actual Klan member and the other moved to the south as a teenager.

There's always been anti-black racism, it's the south, but BLM ripped the lid off. Claims that black men were punching white women in Wall-Mart in town and that the cops weren't stopping it. Crazy shit.

And then there's the queer community. If you have a queer kid, and you're smart, you get that kid into an online school. The hatred is truly vicious and supported by the State.

We're getting the fuck out in the summer of '24 and moving up to Yankee land. Figure it will be a lot safer there.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

The path back becomes overgrown as soon as you traverse it as a society. We'll need to steel ourselves and prepare to find out the worst of our countrymen. The effort to repeal this mental conditioning will be tenfold of what it was to get us here. It creates a vicious cycle and those consumed by it will not awaken until literal blood runs through figurative streets.

[–] akai@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago

I'm really impressed with their diligence in wearing a mask during these rallies, because they really seemed to be against it when the health of other people depended on it...

[–] TubeTalkerX@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

Now they don’t have a problem wearing a mask!

[–] SuiXi3D@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

Y’know what else exists in Austin? A whole shit ton of people that want nothing to do with anything right of center. Including me.

[–] SnowboardBum@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

I hate Illinois Nazis Austin Assholes