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[–] ohwhatfollyisman@lemmy.world 75 points 1 month ago (1 children)

when it comes to describing bees and birds,

i'm sorry but i'm at a loss for words.

we can't hear them buzz or sing

because -- see, here's the thing --

human beings are just massive turds.

[–] reallykindasorta@slrpnk.net 12 points 1 month ago

Nice, we have poets now.

[–] at_an_angle@lemmy.one 30 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Do they live near Salad Fingers?

[–] 14th_cylon@lemm.ee 10 points 1 month ago

And do they like it when the red stuff comes out?

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

oh shit it all came flooding back

[–] SARGE@startrek.website 28 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (6 children)

Not that I'm trying to pick apart a darkly funny comic meant to hilight the bleak future we seem to be barreling towards.... But where do they get their nutrient paste?

I don't see a greenhouse so actual food is unlikely, and given the barren nature of their surroundings, either the dwelling is embedded into rock, or they don't go anywhere outside, hence the lack of a path or tracks. So no buying food.

Are they immortal? Cursed to live on a dead rock until the sun expands past the orbit of the earth? (I choose to believe this)

And here I thought my day was bad...

[–] turbowafflz@lemmy.world 29 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Maybe they have like an underground greenhouse with artificial light and irrigation

[–] SARGE@startrek.website 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That was my next thought, but then where do they get their power, water, and oxygen?

I suppose it could be like a "reserve the surface room for a day" kind of thing, and hundreds of people live down below, with enough space for greenhouses and algea pools for oxygen production. Geothermal power, or simply a solar farm out of view, and deep underground natural water reservoirs...

I still think the immortal people in an indestructible house is probably the best bet.

[–] roguetrick@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

So the look of this is similar to Silo 18 from wool and in that case they straight up used fossil fuels. The top bit was just for their exit and the cameras.

[–] isolatedscotch@discuss.tchncs.de 23 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

As a chemist,

Air: A Sabatier reactor uses CO2 and Hydrogen to make methane and water, then the methane can be heated in an oxygen-less atmosphere (pyrolysis) to get hydrogen and elemental carbon, and you can electrolyze the water to get oxygen and hydrogen. the hydrogen from the methane pyrolysis and water electrolysis is enough to use again in the Sabatier reactor, while the oxygen can then be used again to breathe.

For the food: A bit harder, for a closed loop like for the air you would need to chemically recycle pee and poo which IS possible, just insanely complicated (and gross, and dangerous).

A better method for food, if you had access to water, would be to turn water into steam, then use the elemental carbon from the Sabatier reactor and the steam to make syngas.

Once you have syngas, make Methanol with it, and then convert the methanol to Formaldehyde with a catalyst.

Once formaldehyde is obtained, use the Formose Reaction to make various sugars.

Then, use the sugars to eat or to feed animals/plants.

Idk about other stuff tho, all the proteins, vitamins etc

it could probably be possible to make them with genetically modified yeast/bacteria that feed on the sugar, but AFAIK this doesn't exist yet (the above part of air+water to sugar is possible with current technology, tho)

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

GMO yeast that produces animal-specific proteins is a real thing, though experimental at the moment; it's one of the several routes companies are trying for meat alternatives

[–] regdog@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago
[–] Rolando@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago (2 children)

But where do they get their nutrient paste?

Nanotech-fabricated in corporate labs, delivered through underground pipes. The paste will flow, so long as they do their remote jobs (porn for the mother, bot farm management for the father, exposure to AI test output for the child.)

[–] SARGE@startrek.website 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Optimistic to think it's fabricated with nanotech instead of just pureé'd people and green dye.

No point in wasting the good stuff on the poors.

[–] Rolando@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The problem with using pureé’d people is the transportation cost. C'mon now, think of the shareholders.

[–] SARGE@startrek.website 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

The lifepod just stores the bodies at subzero temperatures until a disposal truck comes to collect the bio waste. It all goes to the same place anyway...

Unless it's one of the new ones, those just blend the body in-house and supplement the incoming lines.

[–] Rolando@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Spendthrift! Who's going to pay for all those trucks and blenders? We'll just jettison the bodies out of the lifepods and let the Desert Crabs eat them. We'll call it part of our "green" initiative. Of course we'll still keep the body transportation charges, and tack on a convenience fee. THINK OF THE SHAREHOLDERS!!!

[–] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 4 points 1 month ago

I would assume the nutrient paste is the people who did poorly at managing bot farms, gave too many unexpected answers to the AI tests...

[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The dad goes out and murders people, justifying it as feeding his family.

[–] VubDapple@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Very Blade Runner 2049 indeed, but those guys at least had greenhouses where they farmed edible insects

[–] seang96@spgrn.com 5 points 1 month ago

Gotta cook the radroaches when they come through the ground.

[–] HotsauceHurricane@lemmy.one 15 points 1 month ago

pbf is amazing!

[–] massive_bereavement@fedia.io 1 points 1 month ago