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[–] No1@aussie.zone 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

State generalities and personal experiences as fact.

State facts and sources.
Response: "Well, I don't believe that"

System is working as designed. Not a bug, WONTFIX

Some of the general statements he made, then provided a bunch of topics behind it as the rationale, each of which was clearly going to be disputed and could be debated for 2 hours alone, was pretty laughable....

Ultimately, it's not a dialogue, it's 21 people shaking their fists and baying at the moon.

[–] ruckblack@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Holy shit, who could tolerate almost 2 hours of this?

[–] return2ozma@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I did. The guy did incredibly well against them.

[–] over_clox@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

I just finished watching for myself. I think he held up pretty well and brought up many valid points and fact checks.

One thing I didn't see anyone bring up much regarding the topic of abortion is the topics of the health of the mother and the baby.

When I was 2 years old, we were rear ended by an 18 wheeler. My mother's head hit the windshield. They took her to the hospital and ended up prescribing her pain killers.

It didn't cross anyone's mind that maybe she was pregnant again. Once the doctors found out, they realized the pain killers were the kind that cause gross life threatening fetus/baby deformities.

There was literally zero percent chance that embryo was going to survive at that early point in her pregnancy. So the doctors had no choice but to highly suggest she abort the pregnancy. Otherwise she'd either end up with a highly deformed baby, or even worse she'd end up dead herself.

She regretfully had them carry out the abortion, realizing that her first child (me) was literally named after my uncle from my father's side that only lived to be a day and a half old, because of intestinal birth defects where his intestines were formed on the outside.

Medical technology wasn't so great back in the 1950's when my deformed baby uncle was born, so there wasn't much way to know that he would be born deformed. ☹️ My father decided to name me after him in honor.

By 1984, at my own age of 2, my mother was pregnant again, but nobody knew when the truck rear ended us. But medical technology had improved enough by then that they should have at least checked whether she was pregnant or not before prescribing her medicine.

The doctors made the wrong call and prescribed something known to cause extreme birth defects. So once they found out, they insisted she have an abortion, which she regretfully did, for sake of her long term health.

She still regrets that decision today to an extent, but my mom very likely wouldn't even be alive today if she had carried that baby.

So, my opinion on all of that is, pro choice, and to hell with politicians or religious people practicing medicine without a license...

Is that the intelligence ratio between liberals and conservatives? 20:1?

Sounds about right.