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[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Based. Imagine voting for Genocide.

[–] pooperNickel@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago

Imagine something else no one does

[–] BigLime@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Could it be because she said, 'Israel has a right to defend itself'? Using the language of an apartheid state and genocide defender. I've read her books, she's a classic example of someone who wants to appear progressive, while trying to stay within the boundaries of the establishment.

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago

When she first became the candidate, I listened to a podcast covering her entire career. The sad thing is that she used to stand for progressive principles, even when it was politically dangerous to do so. Over time, though, she's become more and more conservative. For example, she used to be against the death penalty; now she's for it.

[–] banshee@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago (3 children)

From NPR's article:

"At this time, our movement 1) cannot endorse > Vice President Harris; 2) opposes a Donald Trump presidency, whose agenda includes plans to accelerate the killing in Gaza while intensifying the suppression of anti-war organizing; and 3) is not recommending a third-party vote in the Presidential election, especially as third party votes in key swing states could help inadvertently deliver a Trump presidency given our country’s broken electoral college system,"

I'm glad to see they're not advocating for Trump or a third-party candidate that would help him win the election.

[–] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

or a third-party candidate that would help him win the election.

Y'all still beating the 'wah spoilers' dead horse, huh? When will you settlers understand that anyone not voting for your genocider is a failing of the policies the candidate-murderer espouses, not the voter themselves?

~~Rhetorical question. You never will; because it allows you to maintain your aggrieved victimhood while simultaneously sating your genocidal nature.~~

[–] Zannsolo@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They don't need to endorse her, but the only smart move is to vote for her.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

The only move, really. That should say something about the system, but it still is the only — and right — move.

[–] OneWomanCreamTeam@sh.itjust.works -3 points 1 month ago (2 children)
  1. opposes a Donald Trump presidency, whose agenda includes plans to accelerate the killing in Gaza while intensifying the suppression of anti-war organizing;

No they fucking don't. They're sitting on their fucking hands.

[–] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

They’re sitting on their fucking hands.

The only just answer when the only options presented are both for genocide. History will know who collaborated by whose metadata is tied to the ballots-- and trust, with how many data breaches have happened up til now? People will find out who, when, and where; to a granular level.

Honestly? I think when that day comes, the principled should put up a site the same way Kyiv and Tel Aviv did, lists with names, faces, SSNs, and 'last known location' data for every single Amerikan collaborator in genocide from say, I dunno... 2012 to present day? Wonder how much would change if naming and shaming were possible.

[–] banshee@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm confused by your statement. As far as I know, Trump has advocated for escalating violence in Gaza and everywhere else.

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Do you have a quote? The only thing I've heard Trump say about it is A) the Oct. 7 attack wouldn't have happened if he were president (lol) and B) he would tell Netanyahu to "end it". He refuses to elaborate.

Whether Harris or Trump is president, it won't matter for the situation in Gaza.

[–] banshee@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Here's one article with a good bit of content for you: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-israel-gaza-finish-problem-rcna141905

One quote:

Trump did lay out a few markers in the three weeks that followed the Hamas attack. He said on Oct. 11 that a future Trump administration would “fully support Israel defeating, dismantling, and permanently destroying the terrorist group Hamas,” while telling the Republican Jewish Coalition later that month that Hamas fighters “will burn forever in the eternal pit of hell." That month, his campaign also said that, if elected again, he would bar Gaza residents from entering the U.S. as part of an expanded travel ban.

[–] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Pffft, "Uncommitted"? Try "Abandoned". The democrat party has lost my support for as long as the democrat party continues to exist; because they are irreparably tied to genocide. Collaborators, comforters, aides, and abettors; one and all.