Seems pretty petty, no? The films have different target audiences, and even if they didn't, does the free market not also apply to Hollywood?
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There are plenty of things you’re allowed to do that are still kinda shitty. Nolan feels like WB is lashing out at him for bailing on them after they bailed on Tenet. He thinks they’re trying to eat his receipts, and he’s probably right. Nolan burned a lot of bridges on his way out of WB.
after they bailed on Tenet.
Wise decision. That was a mess of a movie. And no, it's clear I don't worship at the altar of Nolan.
I mean that they went digital early, whereas Nolan wanted a longer theatrical run (during a pandemic). Dude threw a big hissyfit about it, then said he’d never work with WB again.
Plus it was a big yawner. I've never been so bored watching an action scene. It was like watching someone rewind a taped episode of DBZ
I love Nolan movies, but he really needs to stop trying to put action scenes in them. He clearly doesn't know how to film people fighting each other whatsoever.
Tenet genuinely made me feel low IQ from being so confused by that car chase...that....swat team fight.... But then I realized it wasn't my fault I didn't know what was happening or even WHY the action should be cool, it was the movies!
I loved the idea of tenet on paper, but boy. Too long, too confusing, not enough to like. How did he get such a big ego about his movies anyways?
I mean, I think Inception really showed that he's thought too highly of himself for quite a while. That movie is an incredibly shallow and uninteresting movie made out to be something clever. It's mostly just eye candy. I never really saw why people loved it so much.
That's a good point, that movie has a lot of nonsense too, just in a little different package. Tbh, the plot entirely falls apart for me unless I forgive the entire movie for pretending that "dreams" are anything other than nonsense neuron noise. But then it takes itself super seriously, and piles on a bunch of Hallmark card emotions (my wife!!).
We had people over when that came out on DVD. No one had seen it yet so we were all excited. My buddy and I couldn't stop laughing at it the entire time though.
Eventually I watched it again and liked it. But it definitely falls apart in places.
I completely checked out when that blue vs red swat "battle" happened. It so incredibly bad.
Ive sat through Primer 20 times to understand it all because it's a movie that actually has complicated structure in it. You can tell right away Tenet is just set pieces and nothing more.
I feel obligated to mention Pi here as well
Pi is a great movie. But it doesn't have anything in relation to Primer.
I wasn't relating it to primer. I was citing another thinker movie with fantastic world building and structure.
Edit: you know. Like Nolan wishes he could pull off without it coming off as wishy washy. The same reason you brought up Primer in the first place.
different target audiences?
how so? "people that want to be entertained with a cool movie" apply to both!
You can paint broad strokes and say that about literally anything. They have different target audiences, just because I like one movie does not mean I'll like another.
You couldn't pay me to go to Barbie. What a stupid ass movie.
It does seem stupid to open both movies at the same time. Moviegoers are a shrinking population and the audience for seemingly different movies really does overlap a lot. So why the hell would two of the most hyped movies open at the same time? Both would benefit from spacing their release dates out.
Nah, if anything they're benefiting from the joint marketing. Lots of people who'd never be interested in Oppenheimer are booking double-features of it and Barbie just to get in on the Barbenheimer meme (and vice versa!).
I think this is the innovation nurturing free market that capitalism is always promising us at work? But something seems off, yes lol
That's a shame, considering how actors involved in both films are out there supporting each other's movie. Nolan looks bad by comparison.
I don't like Nolan more and more as time goes on. The turning point for me was when he blamed everyone but himself when he was criticized for the terrible sound mixing of his movies, the worst being Tenet. And it wasn't even blaming, because he never admits that it's bad; just that the audience is wrong, and he's right with what he's doing. The only thing pulling me into Oppenheimer is Cillian Murphy.
Just bought 2 tickets for the same day next Saturday. Will you relax already, Chris?
@Odusei He's got good reason to be. Barbie will negatively impact Oppenheimer's opening weekend, not to mention Mission : Impossible won't be doing Nolan any favors either.
Really? I feel like Barbenheimer is going to help it. Having a heavy drama around the Manhattan project just doesn't feel like the Midsummer success Nolan believes. Drop that when the weather cools off.
@Timn I think what Nolan doesn't understand is how adult moviegoers have changed. Prestige highbrow films by Auteurs are on TV now. The movies dominating the cineplexes are cinematic carnival rides overloaded with CGI, fifteen minute fight sequences and explosions.
Maybe so... but, I can't wait to see that full 70mm IMAX atom bomb blow out!
Well one movie will have audible dialog, the other will be from Nolan.
I'm sure the displeasure goes all three ways (including MI: Dead Reckoning).
I'd guess that the two films target different audiences to some degree.
Still a dick move from Warner Bros if the unnamed sources in the article are non-fictional.
I am absolutely looking forward to both.
Haha yes same here.
Nolan chose to speak his mind about WB releasing other directors' movies on streaming, insulting the studio in the process. If this is true then he's just reaping what he sowed.
I'm hardly a fan of Warner Bros management but I'm a big fan of consequences for being an unprofessional dick.
Respectfully
No shit Nolan
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