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[–] repungnant_canary@lemmy.world 229 points 2 months ago (6 children)

When you use Celsius from birth 41C does make you say FORTY ONE DEGREES?!!!

[–] doggle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 144 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Yeah, but it hits different. Smaller number is smaller.

That's why I use Kelvin. THREE HUNDRED AND FIFTEEN DEGREES?!!

[–] deus@lemmy.world 98 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Degrees? While using Kelvin?? OP is a phony!

[–] luciferofastora@lemmy.zip 24 points 2 months ago

I'd excuse it as part of the joke

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 26 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Should use Rankine with that logic. It comes out to 566.

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[–] Woht24@lemmy.world 93 points 2 months ago (6 children)

100%

It's just Americans having American perspectives promoted as world views.

[–] Takumidesh@lemmy.world 28 points 2 months ago (4 children)

It's about crossing into triple digits, a new order of magnitude, it feels heavy.

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 24 points 2 months ago

But it's also underwhelming when your usual reference for over 100 is, "WHAT IT'S HOT ENOUGH TO BOIL WATER OUTSIDE!?"

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[–] Don_alForno@feddit.org 28 points 2 months ago (1 children)

On the other hand, if it was 107°C outside, the outrage would be so much more justified.

[–] noerdman@discuss.tchncs.de 31 points 2 months ago

But much less vocal.

You know, because we'd all be dead.

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[–] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 175 points 2 months ago (8 children)

By that metric, kelvin would be even better though.

[–] RandomStickman@fedia.io 156 points 2 months ago (4 children)

by that metric

Americans cannot understand any metric

[–] snooggums@midwest.social 78 points 2 months ago (1 children)

2 liter bottle.

Checkmate, athiests.

[–] chipt4@beehaw.org 25 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Also we have electric, water and gas meters smh

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[–] konalt@lemmy.world 55 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] borari@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 2 months ago (3 children)

We’re more familiar with 5.56x45mm thanks to all our school shootings thank you very much.

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[–] rovingnothing29@lemmy.world 69 points 2 months ago (8 children)

You miss out on screaming that it's negative anything though.

[–] Haus@kbin.earth 28 points 2 months ago (1 children)
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[–] CaptainPedantic@lemmy.world 20 points 2 months ago

And Rankine would be even better than Kelvin in terms of "big number go brrr." Water boils at 671 R.

Of course, Rankine is the most obnoxious unit I've ever had to deal with, but those numbers sure are big!

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[–] shinratdr@lemmy.ca 152 points 2 months ago (25 children)

For proof that this thread is just people justifying what they know as better somehow, look no further than Canada.

We do cooking temps in Fahrenheit, weather in Celsius. Human weights in pounds, but never pounds and oz. Food weights in grams, cooking weights in pounds and oz. Liquid volume in millilitres and litres, but cooking in cups, teaspoons and tablespoons. Speed & distance in kilometres, heights in feet and inches.

Try and give this any consistency and people will look at you like you’re fucked. The next town is 100km over, I’m 5ft 10in, a can of soda is 355ml, it’s 21c out and I have the oven roasting something at 400f. Tell me it’s 68f out and I will fight you.

People like what they are used to, and will bend over backwards to justify it. This becomes blatantly obvious when you use a random mix of units like we do, because you realize that all that matters is mental scale.

If Fahrenheit is “how people feel” then why are feet useful measurements of height when 90% of people are between 4ft and 6ft? They aren’t. You just know the scale in your head, so when someone says they’re 7ft tall you say “dang that’s tall”. That’s it.

[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 26 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (28 children)

We do cooking temps in Fahrenheit, weather in Celsius.

Fahrenheit: let's use "really cold weather" as zero and "really hot weather" as 100.

Celsius: let's use "freezing water" as zero, and "boiling water" as 100.

Canucks:

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[–] CaptainPedantic@lemmy.world 88 points 2 months ago (38 children)

The only good thing about Fahrenheit is that 69 degrees (20.5 C) is a nice temperature.

[–] RandomStickman@fedia.io 63 points 2 months ago (6 children)

And you can bake things at 420

[–] Godort@lemm.ee 27 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You could bake something at 420 Celsius too, assuming your okay with charcoal as the end product

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[–] mcSibiss@lemmy.world 76 points 2 months ago (24 children)

By that logic, Americans should use km/h instead of mph. Going 0-100 is much better than 0-60. For the same reason you keep telling us why Fahrenheit is so much more intuitive.

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[–] mexicancartel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 73 points 2 months ago

TWO HUNDRED AND SEVETY THREE KELVIN I'M FREEZING

[–] Korrok@lemmy.blahaj.zone 60 points 2 months ago (3 children)

41°C sounds terrifying to me

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[–] BlackDragon@slrpnk.net 58 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (15 children)

Sounds like a great time to propose my system of temperature: Super Celsius. I'll connect it to the freezing and boiling points of water just like Celsius, but while freezing remains at 0, boiling is now 1000. Get ready for a nice mild day of 250.

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[–] hex@programming.dev 58 points 2 months ago (10 children)

Once again... the classic argument of: "Well, I grew up using this system, and I'm used to the system. I have built an internal intuition for how hot and cold the temperature is. I am used to >100 being hot! 40 is not hot!"

Well then. I grew up using celcius and... "IT'S FOURTY FUCKING ONE DEGREES OUTSIDE?" sounds just as hot.

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[–] tino@lemmy.world 54 points 2 months ago (13 children)

it's not about what makes more sense: what makes more sense is what you use everyday and is natural to you. 40+ C is freaking hot because when you experience it, it's freaking hot. It's about what the entire rest of the world is using as a standard.

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[–] dQw4w9WgXcQ@lemm.ee 33 points 2 months ago (5 children)

In Ali Baba and the 40 Thieves, the number of thieves wasn't really necessarily 40. The number was likely just chosen because 40 was an exaggerated number, much like when we'd say "I've told you a hundred million times". So 40 as a shorthand for "a huge amount" seems fitting in celcius.

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[–] ObsidianZed@lemmy.world 30 points 2 months ago (20 children)
[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 76 points 2 months ago (25 children)

Strange, because it is bullshit.

Fahrenheit isn't how people feel, otherwise 50° would be perfect temperature.

You Americans are just used to thinking in Fahrenheit, that is why you think it is how humans feel. As a European, I "feel" in Celsius.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 24 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (11 children)

Fahrenheit literally meant to base the scale with 100 being human body temp.

It was later rescaled by Cavendish to put the freezing point of water at exactly 32 and boiling point at exactly 212, giving a nicely-divisible 180-degree separation between freezing and boiling. That shift is why body temperature is 98.6.

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[–] Iron_Lynx@lemmy.world 26 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Forty-one sounds insanely hot as an outside temperature if that's the standard you're used to. And that's the thing that the Fahrentards refuse to wrap their head around.

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[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 26 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Fahrenheit is better because 69 is a nice temperature

[–] Dagnet@lemmy.world 33 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Celsius is better because 69 is very hot

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[–] Moah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 26 points 2 months ago

That's why I only use Kelvin. 314.15 sounds like 3 times more "WTF HOW HOT IS TODAY??!?" than your paltry 107

[–] OkGo@lemm.ee 23 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Ah America, bigger is always a better isn’t it?

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[–] jpablo68@infosec.pub 22 points 2 months ago (5 children)

good point, but to us Celsius fans or "Celsilovers" over one hundred sounds like the apocalypse.

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[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 22 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

IT'S OVER THREE HUNDRED KELVIIIIIIIIIIN!

[–] meep_launcher@lemm.ee 22 points 2 months ago (8 children)

I present the temperature scale that I made up- the Human Scale (H°)

I thought about the Fahrenheit vs Celsius debate, and I think both have practical uses, however I think combined they could make a very practical scale.

Fahrenheit: while my American sensibilities agree that 100° is a good marker for what % of my patience is used up to cut a bitch, I think a similar place would be the average human body temperature. For this reason, 100°H = 98.6°F . It's not a perfect match, but it can still give us the satisfaction of "IT'S 100°!?" while having practical implications for medical uses "your body temperature is 102°, 2° warmer than average".

Celsius: I think this scale makes a ton of sense for colder temperatures. When the thermometer reads 0°, that's when you can expect snow. For this reason, 0°H = 0°C.

The conversation rates are:

H = (F-32) × 1.5

H= C × 2.7

More precise is

H = (F-32) × 1.501501501...

H = C × 2.7027027027...

While using the freezing point of water and the average human body temperature seem like inconsistent and arbitrary benchmarks, my goal is less about consistency and more about practicality for everyday use.

Now watch this scale grow as big as Esperanto.

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