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Ill keep it as short as possible, apologies if i keep rambling(ill put my specs at the bottom)

Over the last yew years, i have used quite a lot of distros, from mint (currently my main again), to manjaro to solus to endeavouros and more i cant remember, one thing they all (minus solus) had in commong (for me) was the fact that pc gaming...was horrible on them.

Many hours where spend getting different games to work, or rather trying to get them to work at all, most of them had failed, steam, lutris, default wine, no matter what has been used)

As an example:

Anno 1404 history edition (best anno, fite me), i bought it on steam, tried launching it, didnt work, tried several proton versions, didnt work, lutris, didnt work, i downloaded a crack to see, didnt work either, using a different file format, nothing.

Sometimes i was able to make it work, once and than never again, solus was the only one where anno 1404 worked out of the box, i managed to make it work in endeavouros once by installing two packages i could never find again. (most recently, i bought space marine 2, didnt work and keeps crashing no matter what i do9

But this was the best case scenario, games really work.

Is it just my hardware?

Am i using linux just wrongly for years?

Is it my fault?

Am i missing something?

My specs:

prebuilt desktop: Acer Nitro N50-620

memory 64KiB BIOS

memory 32GiB System Memory

memory 16GiB DIMM DDR4 Synchronous 26

memory 8GiB DIMM DDR4 Synchronous 320

memory 8GiB DIMM DDR4 Synchronous 320

processor 11th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-

bridge Intel Corporation

display TU116 [GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER]

storage Micron_2210_MTFDHBA1T0QFD

bus Tiger Lake-H USB 3.2 Gen 2x1 x

network Tiger Lake PCH CNVi WiFi

bus Tiger Lake-H Serial IO I2C Con

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[–] JTskulk@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

I've been gaming on EndeavourOS for over a year now and have had the opposite experience. All my games work great in Steam with Proton. Granted I don't play modern AAA shooters or League of Legends which goes out of their way to use bad anticheat that doesn't support Linux. Only one time I had a game not start right away and all I had to do was install .Net for it or something which was also very easy.

[–] x00za@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Well, you aren't really talking about gaming on Linux. You're talking about running Windows games on Linux. Wine and Linux are absolutely amazing for gaming, but it's mostly up to the developers at this point.

About waht you are saying about Anno; I have a feeling you're not fully understanding Wine/Proton and how it works. By learning a bit about it you'll probably start to understand what actually is not working. A good place to start is always the ProtonDB page.

Linux is beating Windows in some gaming benchmarks btw :)

[–] Mandy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

whats the difference between gaming on linux and running windows games on linux? isnt both of them gaming on linux

protondb as good as a resource it may be, i tried it often, with anno 1404 too, but i honestly dont recall tweaks there ever working for me (for games rated to be running of course, i dont try games that are rated in the red naturally)

I see that linux is pretty good in benchmarks and i believe it so too, however, that is not the case for me and im at a point where im torn between "something is wrong with me and my setup" and "what voodoo is everyone else using that they arent telling me?"

[–] index@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago

whats the difference between gaming on linux and running windows games on linux? isnt both of them gaming on linux

There are games that are native to linux that run just fine

[–] AsudoxDev@programming.dev 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Arch linux user here. Gaming totally works. Sometimes even better than Windows when playing native games. Even Proton works good most of the time. Sometimes I play Brawlhalla with Proton Experimental and it runs better and less laggy in Linux than Windows despite Windows having a native build. Check ProtonDB to find out how well games work on Linux. Linux gamers review games there.

Thanks to Valve, the Steam Deck is getting Linux popular and basically makes devs build their games for Linux as well.

[–] Sivecano@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 months ago

Tbh I can recommend nobara linux. For gaming especially it's often nice to have access to recent drivers / proton versions. But maybe that's not even relevant in your case.

[–] Sivecano@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 months ago

You can actually get the terminal output from your game by setting the launch options to %command% 2>&1 > /tmp/log.txt Which will write the terminal output of the game to the file /tmp/log.txt

[–] Protoknuckles@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

I've been doing a majority of my gaming on a steam deck lately, running Linux. Check my deck says that anno 1404 is not supported on the deck though. In general, I'd say that Linux gaming has gotten a LOT better, but it is not yet perfect.

[–] nijave@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Running Steam (Windows) games on Linux (Fedora) has always been finicky for me. Sometimes requiring digging into logs to figure out what's going on

[–] Mandy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago

i tried to install fedora a few times, but it was borked at a system level the 3 times i did

im not the smartest woman around the blog, but when i tried to see what the terminal says sometimes with borked games, i dont think it ever helped me get a game to run, i chalk it up to simply not being knowledgeable enough

[–] lurch@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

It has always been gaming ready, but you lose a lot of performance if you play non-native games.

Try some non-Steam native Linux games ideally coming with your distro. For example OpenAstroMenace, Warzone2100, OpenTyrian or nexuiz etc..

Also the older multiplatform Java MMO Spiral Knights should even run with Steam (and without) on high graphics settings, but maybe you will have to swap out its bundled Java for a 64bit one.

[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 0 points 2 months ago

I usually recommend zorin as a windows replacement as it emulates windows as much as can be and comes with a lot out of box, however, if the goal is gaming I think I would try steamos. I mean its what is on the steam deck and has a company actively working to make it work.

[–] Hawk@lemmynsfw.com -1 points 2 months ago

If a game doesn't run on Linux, I just don't play it.

Life is too short, I don't care anymore.

I need Linux for work and I have no interest in paying for an OS that doesn't let me have privacy.

So fuck it, if companies don't write there software well enough... I'll live.

I'd rather spend time in a bar anyway.

[–] LunchMoneyThief@links.hackliberty.org -4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Using workarounds to attempt to get foreign software running on an operating system for which is was never built is always going to be fraught with problems.

If the game isn't distributed compiled for your platform, then you are a second class citizen and no amount of API wrappers, translation layers, VMs or whatever will ever address the core issue.

Running a game in Proton (Wine) is not playing on Linux. It is your linux environment contorting itself and doing miraculous back flips in the hope of convincingly coaxing the Windows binary game into thinking that it is running on an actual Windows host.

Soft solution: Purchase games that are properly developed and released targeting your platform natively.

Hard solution: Graduate from playing games and move on with your life. (btw mine improved a lot after putting gaming behind me for good. + I can now use whatever computer hardware and software I damn well please)

[–] Mandy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago

oh, you are one of those kinds of people thinking that gaming is not for adults

you had me at the first half ngl

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