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[–] Turkey_Titty_city@kbin.social 30 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I can't turn on the radio TV without them talking about AI every 5 minutes. It's bitcoin bullshit allover again. Or Big Data, or 'new media' or etc etc.

Buzz buzz buzz.

[–] Peruvian_Skies@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Great comparison. Like Blockchain, LLMs are an amazing technology with several potential applications. Like Blockchain, and every other technology, there is a lot more that they can't do than what they can. Like Blockchain, they're being hyped as the This Changes Everything that will finally bring us into "the future" (whatever that is). And finally, like with Blockchain, the people doing the most hyping are the ones that understand the least about the technology.

[–] Spiracle@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

While I agree in general, Generative AIs have already changed much more about my everyday experience than Blockchain has in all these years.

The difference is that Generative AIs can be applied much more broadly for end users. You can run a small LLM, image generator, voice synthesizer etc at home. I don’t think any run-of-the-mill person actively uses Blockchain or Big Data for anything, really

The media vastly overhype LLMs etc, just like the do any new technology. Venture capitalists jump on the hype train, blowing it out of proportion. However, below all of that is what I consider genuinely transformative technology, with a long-term impact orders of magnitude above Blockchain.

[–] Peruvian_Skies@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

My bank uses Blockchain to validate transactions. Yours probably does too. It also has applications in supply chain management, public and private record keeping of various kinds (such as patient records, real estate ownership records and basically any historical record where each entry is immutable and continues to matter even after several newer entries have been made), digital voting systems , energy trading/grid management and other DeFi applications other than cryptocurrencies, and more. I don't know for sure, but I'm pretty confident that its impact on the world economy has been and will continue to be much larger than generative AI's, at least of current-gen generative AI.

The real difference is in visibility. Blockchain is a background technology, running things silently, while LLMs are directly interacted with by the general public.

[–] Spiracle@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Sorry, I didn’t mean to imply that those technologies weren’t important. Blockchain, the whole crypto-sphere, impacts many many lives.

Similarly, Big Data, and its corollaries of maximized data collection and automated surveillance and profiling, impact pretty much everyone today.

I should have been more clear about the two things I think are different this time:

  1. Generative AI is personal. I, normal internet user, can install them and use them myself. They expand my personal options. LLMs are great at transforming text, for example to explain it, break it down, or change speech registers. If you already know something, they can speed up your work massively in some parts. Image generators are more narrow in their application, but no less powerful.

  2. The impact of Generative AI is felt immediately. How many years did it take for Blockchain to take off? It’s been less than a year since OpenAI released usable models to the public. Image generators only got good this year. Neither has as much impact on the world at large as some of the other buzz-word tech, but the impact is growing massively. ChatGPT is not only another tech fad, it had the quickest growing userbase in all of history, afaik.

The media are overhyping what generative AI can do. It is, for large part of the tech bro sphere, a buzz word without a lot of meaning. However, as a privacy enthusiast who followed the big surveillance leaks enabled by big data, and as a tech-interested person followed the news for a decade or so now, I have never seen something like this before. Once you look past the buzz around the word, I still consider it the tech advancement with the (probably) biggest direct impact I have witnessed yet.

[–] dont_even_bother_@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yours probably does too.

*Citation needed

Without a doubt blockchain has has an impact on the global economy, with an outsized improvement for narco cartels, North Korea, and other super above board transactions.

[–] Peruvian_Skies@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

probably

Citation needed

several examples of non-cryptocurrency Blockchain applications

lol North Korea and drug cartels

I'm sorry, I wrote my reply under the assumption that you were having this conversation in good faith. Now that I see that it isn't the case, I'll excuse myself. Have a great week.

[–] zohaas@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is pretty categorically false. The main difference between the 2 is how many people need to be on-board for the train to leave the station. With things like Blockchain, and Crypto, it requires a majority of individuals to buy in to the system. If no one is using your currency, it's literally worthless. With something like AI, it doesn't require additional people to buy in for the product to be used. A good example is the help line that fired all their staff and started using an AI instead. This failed pretty spectacularly, but only because the implementation was rushed. There are LOTS of other companies that aren't rushing their implementation.

[–] Peruvian_Skies@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

You do realize that there is zero contradiction between your comment and mine, yes? You said mine was "categorically" false (it isn't) and then stated ways in which the two are different which have nothing to do with the ways in which they're similar that I had mentioned. They're similar but not identical. Also, Blockchain is useful for more than cryptocurrencies.

[–] Ghost33313@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Exactly. It works well to replace an intern but if you want anything that is fact checked, can draw hands correctly, etc. without plagiarizing you are out of luck.

[–] MxM111@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

Today. And 3 years ago nobody even knew about OpenAI and GPT. Forward 3 years into future…

[–] Hazdaz@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Over the last few years an easy way to get financed for internal projects within a company, or from VC pigs is to include "crypto", "nano", "3d Printers", "green/recycling", "machine learning" or a host of other similar buzzwords that most corporate executives barely understand.

[–] beatle@programming.dev 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Tell me you’re in management and know nothing about IT without telling me you know nothing about IT.

[–] a_name_needs_no_name@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This post or the joke? If the latter I agree. But want to make sure I am not missing a thing.

[–] beatle@programming.dev 4 points 1 year ago

The joke only. I’m making no comment on OP.

[–] Badass_panda@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

IMO it's the inevitable outcome when something relatively niche is introduced to the general public all at once.

Suddenly folks who have never encountered generative AI are using it, and freaking out about it -- while those of us who have been engaged all along are a bit more clear eyed.

[–] Lemmylefty@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

It’s the dotcom bubble all over again, and we’re seeing in realtime the downfall of that.

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