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I asked if people chose iPhone for the blue bubbles elsewhere a couple days ago, and while there was some good discourse on that post, the blue bubbles definitely also came up as a reason.

In my experience, when people find out my texts are green, they oftentimes would rather switch to a different platform altogether like Instagram or just not text at all.

Is this actually a deal-breaker in friendships out there?

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[–] Scubus@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

For me, I'm technologically inclined and like to be helpful. As such, I would not date an iphone user as I do not know how to fix their phones, and that would make me feel sad that I couldn't help. Also, as an iphone user, it seems like they'd rather just buy a new stupidly phone than take the time to figure out how their device actually works, and that massively clashes with how I view things.

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[–] sloppy_diffuser@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Signal is my preferred messenger right now since I convinced my contacts to move to it. Collects the least and it is private.

There is also Session which is a Signal fork that removes phone number linking.

Matrix for a privacy focused federated messaging system is another option.

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[–] acrobaticpenguin23@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Most of the people that I know who have Iphones do for family chat or teens and college age because everyone in their circle does.

But IPhone owners have no call to be looking down on android users.

Some of the greatest apps, PowerAmp and Photo Studio Pro do not have iPhone versions. Also IPhone runs behind Samsung in innovation. I mean IPhone finally added widgets but the functionality on IPhone pales in comparison to Android.

Also can't change defaults in IPhone for launcher, music, dialer, and pretty much everything except, browser, and email.

I could never own an IPhone because they think they know best for users. With Android I have autonomy over my device.

Some areas of this country do not get reliable cell signal that is where an FM tuner can still receive emergency alerts but no not IPhone because they disallow their customer base from having and essentially force their power users to utilize their cloud services because once again they fail to offer expandable storage as an option. Shaping their own market but it essentially is anti consumer.

Despite these things Apple is relatively successful with these business decisions (especially in the US) but Samsung Ultra has eclipsed the IPhone Pro with the 23 version and IOS is still playing catch up with Android.

[–] weariedfae@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (10 children)

Wait..when people say the blue bubbles they're talking about text? I thought it was the live wallpaper!

Can apple people not change the color of their text chat bubbles? I changed mine so long ago I don't even know what the default is.

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[–] Wander@yiffit.net 10 points 1 year ago

Not to mention that any problems caused by green bubble lack of compatibility are Apple's fault, not Android's.

[–] daniskarma@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Which country are we talking about?

I barely know people using iOS, much less being elitist about it.

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[–] amenotef@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This is mainly an issue in countries that still use SMS as main IM platform.

In most countries (where mobile internet coverage is good) the main IM and VoIP platform is an app like WhatsApp and similars.

(The only thing I hate from WhatsApp is that is from Meta and as any Meta app it abuses background usage. I'd replace it with another app but all my friends, colleagues, even shops use it)

[–] X1M@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I've had an iPhone for a long time and I've never got a person sending me a SMS. All I get are automatic messages about deliveries and stuff. I guess iMessage is more a thing in the USA?

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[–] Koordinator_O@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The heck are blue bubbles? Is this post about some fancy soap?

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[–] sheogorath@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

This is more of a US centric problem, in other countries this hasn't been really a problem as everyone is using WhatsApp/Line/Telegram to communicate. More younger people are actually using discord to text with each other. I think this issue will get less relevant as time goes on.

[–] Irulebabey@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

It's a bummer that anyone is made feel this way about the phones they use. I've been an iOS user since my first smartphone and could not give less of a fuck if you are as well or if you use Android. Most of my friends are Android users and our message threads, video messaging, etc is all fine. I feel like I see this thread a lot on every platform and the comments section is just a place for people to vent about how much they hate the other operating system (and most of the time they have never even used the other lol).

[–] boonhet@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago (4 children)

For stupid or vain people, maybe. And only in countries where people send SMS anyway.

I haven't used SMS actively ever, because as soon as smartphones got popular, everyone moved to Facebook, and then later I got my friends to move to Telegram if they wanted to keep talking to me.

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[–] Lysergid@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My first reaction what like ”yes, of course!”. Then I realized you are talking about others people’s phone, not about choosing your phone :D

The only good reason I can see is privacy since SMS not encrypted. But those people most likely ask to switching to Insta, WhatsApp or other BS platform, so I doubt it’s about privacy. The only logical reasons left - they are addicted to those platforms / they value platform more than you / they just PoS

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[–] 6mementomori@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

i miss the good old times when i was too young to be literate and could not have possibly read this post

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[–] SkullHex2@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

is blue/green bubbles code for something? I really don't know what I'm reading here

[–] whileloop@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (12 children)

iMessage, the texting app on iPhones, shows messages from other iMessage users in blue bubbles. All other messages, (i.e., Android, Windows Phone (RIP), and others), appear in green bubbles.

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[–] Alkider@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Apparently for some people they see it as a gimped version of IOS somehow. If anything IOS from what I've used before is so much more locked down now than it used to be when I had a 3G. But yeah the stigma is there with some people, but it doesn't really matter at this point. If you want to side load apps, use android because you don't have to go out of your way to get dev permissions, hook it up to the PC to install, and constantly re-approve your side-loaded apps. Seriously that shit gets annoying real fast.

[–] GregorGizeh@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don’t think I have ever given a shit about the bubble color, and I’m an iPhone user for well over a decade now. I don’t know anyone who actually uses messages for their main communication, they use other apps for that.

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[–] OfficeChair@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Everyone I know uses WhatsApp, and they're not childish enough for carrying about green or blue bubbles. So weird.

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[–] Infinity13@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (11 children)

I don't care much about iMessage. All the people I know who are not an iPhone users use facebook messenger and cry about how bad quality sending pictures and videos are. But do nothing to change that. Thats the problem. I was going though hell to convince my girlfriend to use Signal to chat with me. Because she is an Android user. I hate FB, Insta, WhatsApp and all that stuff.

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[–] KrisKao@feddit.uk 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Most of the world uses WhatsApp, and it does not matter if you have iPhone or Android. Are you in the USA? I hear it is the only country where people use apple messages so much that it matters.

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[–] Pika@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

It's not a strict deal breaker for me, I use an Android myself. But I will definitely preach to people the differences between Apple and Android, because in the US there is a vast divide and for some reason they think that it's a status symbol to have an Apple device, and they will boast like it's some great thing. It's super fun to pull up the hardware specs and show them that my phone Beats there new iPhone in almost every category. Then I end it with saying that both systems have ups and down, apples biggest Pro is going to be their interface, but if you are a techie or want actual control over the phone itself stick with Android. Most of the "incompatibilities" between the two systems, are Apple generated, meaning that they've gone out of the way in some way to actively forbid it. Bluetooth is a perfect example of this, Apple devices support it for audio transfer and Airdrop uses Bluetooth for its transfer medium, but you can't transfer files strictly over Bluetooth because the functionality has been intentionally removed to allow the walled garden state.

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[–] WhoRoger@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It may sound weird, but your choice of phone does say something about you. I have to say I am dismayed when I see an iPhone in someone's hand. I may understand their reasons, but still. I can imagine it works the other way around too.

I mean, to take it to the extreme: I remember a Reddit debate about a married couple, where the husband was an open source, anti-corporate advocate, and the wife wanted to fill their house with Amazon Alexa speakers.

20 years ago, your choice of brand for TV or camera wouldn't matter much, but now it can indeed be a big deal.

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[–] MargotRobbie@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

I find it easier to convince Apple users to use another app like Signal to group chat with Android users instead if they really don't want the green bubble.

Alternatively, you can get a secondary iPhone just to use iMessage, but carrying 2 phones does get annoying.

[–] ollietest@lemmy.codesink.io 8 points 1 year ago

Not for adults

[–] art@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (7 children)

The green color that Apple chose for SMS was picked because of how harsh it is on the eyes. They want you to hate talking to non Apple users.

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[–] infamousbelgian@waste-of.space 7 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Deal-breaker in friendship? Hell no. If a friendship is defined by what phone you are using, the world is close to ending I think. Deal-breaker for me personally (as in: I need to use Android device): yes. I'm not making the switch to something Google.

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