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Please annihilate my new build (lemmy.world)
submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by GetOffMyLawn@lemmy.world to c/pcmasterrace@lemmy.world
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So, after many.....many years. I have decided to upgrade my PC. I am leaving NvidIa and going full team red for the first time. I was intel/Nvidia for years and then i switched to AMD processors for the build I am currently using but I think it's time to wave goodbye to team green.

Here is my current build from 2016/17:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4HzMGL

•CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 1700 3 GHz 8-Core Processor ($215.00 @ Amazon)
•CPU Cooler: AMD Wraith Prism 2800 CFM CPU Cooler ($79.66 @ Amazon)
•Motherboard: Asus STRIX B350-F GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard ($199.67 @ Walmart)
•Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($39.99 @ Amazon)
•Storage: Intel 545s 256 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($145.49 @ Amazon)
•Storage: Samsung 870 Evo 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($59.99 @ Amazon)
•Video Card: MSI ARMOR OC GeForce GTX 1070 8 GB Video Card
•Case: NZXT S340 ATX Mid Tower Case
•Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 650 GT 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($99.99 @ Newegg)
•Case Fan: NZXT Air Flow 59.1 CFM 120 mm Fan
•Case Fan: NZXT Air Flow 83.6 CFM 140 mm Fan
•Case Fan: NZXT Air Flow 83.6 CFM 140 mm Fan

and here is the new build:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wgwVqm

•CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7700 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor ($299.00 @ Amazon)
•CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 chromax.black 82.52 CFM CPU Cooler ($119.95 @ Amazon)
•Motherboard: MSI MAG B650 TOMAHAWK WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard ($219.95 @ Amazon)
•Memory: G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL32 Memory ($104.99 @ Amazon)
•Storage: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($54.99 @ Amazon)
•Video Card: XFX Speedster MERC 319 Radeon RX 6950 XT 16 GB Video Card ($579.99 @ B&H)
•Case: Corsair iCUE 4000D RGB AIRFLOW ATX Mid Tower Case ($120.99 @ Amazon)
•Power Supply: Corsair RM850x (2021) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($147.99 @ Amazon)
•Case Fan: Corsair iCUE AF120 RGB ELITE 65.57 CFM 120 mm Fans 3-Pack ($104.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1752.84

What do y'all think about it?

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[–] Saneless@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

An expensive CPU cooler for a 65w chip that already has a cooler that overperforms at that tpu seems like a complete waste

[–] GetOffMyLawn@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I have been using the stock AMD cooler on my Ryzen 1700 and it performs like crap, sometimes getting up too 95C+. After talking to my friend who has the 7700 who has temps of 85C+ on the stock cooler and switched to the D15(dropping his full load temps by 20C+/-) i decided i wanted to have better cooling. Also, I live in the PNW and don't have air conditioning, which isn't needed really where i live but i don't need my computer heating my room to 80 degrees in the summer and want it to cool as well as it can, especially with that power hungry/hot GPU.

[–] Saneless@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

That's a decent reason and all, but the CPU cooler doesn't magically make the CPU generate less heat. It dissipates heat faster away from the CPU. Which of course just means it's getting to your room.

Heat is heat. 100 watts of power will have the same amount of energy to dissipate with the best cooler on the planet and the worst. Your CPU will just have the heat closest to it for less or more time.

You can't escape the laws of thermodynamics

[–] spark947@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think you phrased something wrong, it reads like not having a cooler will make your room hotter somehow.

[–] GetOffMyLawn@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sorry, i am just saying, i don't have air conditioning so there isn't much cold air entering the computer intakes so my tempers are higher than most people. Also, my office gets VERY hot. So i am trying to cool down my PC as best as i can.

[–] Dexx1s@lemmy.fmhy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

The heat is going to exist somewhere. All the cooler does is move it from the CPU to the case, and the case fans move it to the room. A better cooler would heat up the room more, if anything. A 7700 is also nothing in comparison to a 6950XT. If you were worried about heat, the 4070 probably would have been better die to the far lower TDP.

Also, cooling depends very heavily on the ambient temperature of the room and the other fans in the case. If your room is 30°C, tough shit, that CPU is going to have relatively high temps, and spending $100 on a huge cooler isn't going to magically make it disappear. You're ignoring all the other factors of your friends case.

Honestly, fixing ventilation in your room might actually be more worthwhile for both your PC and yourself.

Buy the parts you want, but don't build up unrealistic expectations.

[–] dank_imagemacro@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I assume you've considered and decided against something like this Frankenstein? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/g6j2Kp

[–] Miro@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Build looks fine but what made you choose that case, Mobo, GPU and SSD?

Also, what resolution and type of gaming do you do?

[–] GetOffMyLawn@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Originally i was going to get the 5800x and a GTX 4070. Then, after a lot of vodka and youtube videos i decided that i wanted to try out DDR5 and the newest Ryzen 7000 series CPU's. I had the Ryzen 1700 since release and EVERYONE said to just use the stock cooler, which i have been but it isn't really great at all and i have seen it peaking at 95C many times so i wanted a better cooler. The problem is, the cooler i picked doesn't fit in my old case so I chose the Corsair 4000D purely because of that reason. I also have been an Nvidia fanboy for years but i decided on trying out AMD cards so i picked the 6950XT for $40 less than the 4070 was going to cost me. The MOBO I chose because I have had problems with my current ASUS ROG STRIX B350-F and after looking into it, the new ASUS MOBO's are having the EXACT SAME memory issues i was having in 2017 so i am jumping off the ASUS ship.

I play 1440p/144HZ.

[–] Miro@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Gotcha, thank you for additional context.

What I read, DLSS 3.0 is like magic and running 1440p games, you'd possibly benefit from it if you stick to Nvidia. I don't know how much $40 means to your budget but I would invest in that solely because of that. THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH AMD GPUs, buy it's something I'd consider.

If I was building today, I'd certainly go DDR5 as you are.

I can't comment on stock cooler as I also value quiet operations because it's annoying when I'm gaming next to a jet engine, so even though the cooler might be overkill, I want them quiet. I haven't tested stock cooler but a nice Noctua was in my budget.

Same with my case, Be Quiet! 500DX but again, because I want as silent as possible while gaming.