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The mastodon and lemmy content I’m seeing feels like 90% of it comes from people who are:

  • ~30 years old or older

  • tech enthusiasts/workers

  • linux users

There’s nothing wrong with that particular demographic or anything, but it doesn’t feel like a win to me if the entire fediverse is just one big monoculture.

I wonder what it is that is keeping more diverse users away? Is picking a server/federation too complicated? Or is it that they don’t see any content that they like?

Thoughts?

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tech enthusiasts/workers

linux users

Those are the primary people who are going to come to a platform like this. The average joe probably hasn't even noticed any major changes with reddit.

[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

you ever feel like tech people embrace new technology first?

you're not wrong, and it's something that needs to be acknowledged, but I can't think of a single innovation on the internet that wasn't dominated by older (when you demarcate 30 as "older") tech people before coming to popularity among the general public

[–] drunnells@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Oh man, that's totally me! But I can't tell you why it is so appealing to my demographic. I don't know anyone IRL here and nothing about it seems like it would scare off everyone else...

BUT while we are all here:

  • Trapper Keepers
  • Garbage Pail Kids
  • Music on cassette tapes
  • Vim > Emacs
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[–] CoffeeBlood91@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago

You just described me perfectly.

I feel like the people who are really upto speed, read between the lines, know their shit, and know what the best shit it.

Generally the people on here take their time, do their research, and invest in some quality product.

I was a Windows user up until last summer, a daily Reddit user since 2011, I was born in 1991, always been somewhat of a computer geek growing up.

In life I work as a barista/manager in a cafe, I set up the whole POS, trained staff, I do latte art.

Outside of work I organize public boardgame groups and movies in the park using a projecto, connected to a steamdeck, connected to a harddrive with 1800 movies.

The second Reddit hit the fan, I came here.

When I go to the bar, I make friends easy, I talk people's ears off about geeky stuff. I eat mushroom chocolates a few times a week that I made my self, mushrooms give me insight and revelations.

I am the only person I know in person who has a steamdeck, no one I talk to is familiar with Linux, and few people are familiar with the fediverse and what's happened to Reddit.

It's odd feeling like the odd one out, but I am happy to have these forums to connect to other odd ones out.

[–] sgtgig@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Avoiding corporate software companies and abandoning established communities on principle isn't something your average person does. Also, wrapping your head around the Fediverse, even if the sign-up process is as simple as other platforms, can be an obstacle for most people.

[–] Smokeydope@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

The average person is about as technologically literate as a rock and curious about learning new things as a weed. Only a small subset of intelligent, curious, principled people dare to think of using alternatives that require users to have more than two brain cells or an attention span of more than 30 seconds.

[–] tnomrom_haroj@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Me, me and me. Maybe I've finally found my people?

[–] Resonosity@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Sub-30 yo but super-20 yo

STEM equal, just not tech

Windows user (although I have Linux installed on my PC)

Close, but rly close enough

[–] b3nsn0w@pricefield.org 4 points 1 year ago

hey! i'll have you know i'm only 26. calling me out...

i also haven't used linux for a while but i'm currently procrastinating on setting it up on my laptop because windows modern standby hella sucks

[–] taj@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I guess I'm all 3. I'm 39, tech enthusiast (tho I've long since given up on working in the industry), and have been using and occasionally contributing to the Linux community since the mid-90s.

My husband is afaik, still just on reddit. idk if he's moved to the official app on his phone (he was a rif guy for years) or what he's doing tbh. But, he's not really a geek 😁

[–] _finger_@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

From what I see on Local we are

Trans Old Young Gay Straight Nerds Furries Porno addicts

[–] XiELEd@lemmy.fmhy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

I'm literally less than a decade old and only own a phone and a shitty HP laptop

[–] mcepl@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Every new technology is first used by this kind of people (not sure about the age), it is for now just to us to extend the area covered by various communities to non-techie areas. I hope to start with participating in !fanfiction@lemmy.ml and !hpfanfiction@lemmy.world which are hopefully far enough from the usual techie crowd.

[–] paddirn@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

40-ish M. Potentially, we’re/they’re more likely to have been using 3rd party apps and felt frustration with the Reddit decision in the first place. Younger users (and maybe older, 50-60+) maybe just started off with the official Reddit app or Reddit is a smaller part of their “content diet” vs other platforms, so they don’t really see what the big deal is.

If true, it’d be kind of an interesting demographic shift, since the last time we probably saw something like that was with Facebook when younger people moved away from it when it became boomer territory, so maybe the opposite is happening with Reddit, with middle/older more tech-savvy users jumping ship, but I’ve no real evidence.

[–] alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago

I'm neither cis male nor that old but I fit the other two demographics lmao

Might be that tech inrerested ppl are more inclined to switch to less used alternatives when they allow for a more free and open platform. Also the barrier of entry for those might be quite a bit lower than the average Redditor

[–] Pregnenolone@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Jeez I’m not that old

[–] kamen@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

All true for me... except I haven't booted into my Linux install in literal months.

[–] TommyCat@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

43 here. IT consultant. Have been on every social media platform since Myspace all the way back to Usenet if you want to consider that social media which is what is basically was. On the major platforms these days, I mostly lurk and DM with fam and friends along with small Discord groups. Since joining the fediverse, and more specifically Lemmy, I've been much more active commenting and posting then I've been in years. I actively encourage friends and fam to join, but the fact is the fediverse is young and isn't as user friendly. It has to reach a critical mass of ease of use and user adoption which is what's being driven up right now like all other platforms before it. The more people join, the more it will be streamlined, feeding back to usability so more people discover and join, etc. etc. This is how all platforms evolved except in the case of the fediverse, it isn't controlled by a single entity which has its pluses and minuses. I don't expect MetaThreadBook, Reddit, Twitter, et al to go anywhere anytime soon, but diversification and competition is always good. If we can reach critical mass with the fediverse, it will provide a good check against these monopolistic entities and hopefully result in better overall communities and interactions.

[–] Mereo@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago
  1. Yes, in my late 30s.
  2. I was a computer scientist, but now I have done a complete 180. But I'm still a nerd at heart.
  3. Yup, I'm a Linux user.

But we have to understand that Lemmy/Kbin are still babies, they've just started. And I really believe that it will continue to grow and get better at accommodating users who are not tech nerds. But it will be an organic process.

The more Reddit gets worse (no more moderation bots, no good moderation tools from Reddit, etc.), the more people will migrate to Lemmy/Kbin. This migration will force the community to adapt and make it easier and easier for users to integrate.

[–] Whirlybird@aussie.zone 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

There are a few things keeping users away - the perceived complexity and the sign up process and understanding how it all works, and the fact that it's a "new" site that is trying to replace reddit when many don't feel any need to leave reddit. That's the big one, and a big part of why the population here is made up of who it is.

The younger people that just use reddit as a meme site and for insta thots and porn either don't know or don't care about the API changes, didn't use a third party app so don't care that they're gone, and were oblivious to the whole protest. It's basically back to normal over on reddit now, so nothing changed for them and they don't have a reason to join here.

I'm 30+, a tech enthusiast dev, but I don't use Linux.

[–] within_epsilon@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

You caught me. I'm old, write software and regularly use Linux.

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