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The mastodon and lemmy content I’m seeing feels like 90% of it comes from people who are:

  • ~30 years old or older

  • tech enthusiasts/workers

  • linux users

There’s nothing wrong with that particular demographic or anything, but it doesn’t feel like a win to me if the entire fediverse is just one big monoculture.

I wonder what it is that is keeping more diverse users away? Is picking a server/federation too complicated? Or is it that they don’t see any content that they like?

Thoughts?

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[–] dragonflyteaparty@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

I mean, I'm 32, my husband is a software dev, and I've been curious about Linux, but not enough to make the move. 😅 So, one of of three.

But I agree with the others. It's probably partly due to the signup. I also think that the techy prime are the ones who understand what happened with Reddit better and are more likely to care.

[–] wtry@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago

I'm a younger tech nerd, but I do use linux.

[–] Capricorny90210@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Generalization of course, but the younger generation isn't always as tech savvy as one might assume, and I'd imagine they prefer the easy "sign in and scroll" apps

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[–] CreeperODeath@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Nah I'm a 19 year old tech nerd With a pinch of Linux enthusiast lol

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[–] Ddhuud@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I'm 3 for 3.

4 for 4 of you separate item 2.

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[–] MrNemobody@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

I thought Lemmy didn't collect info about me 🧐

[–] rickdg@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

To be fair, the most diversity I'm seeing in an userbase right now is the one on tiktok. That's definitely a plus, but at what cost? There are trade-offs in every platform.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 9 points 1 year ago

I wonder what it is that is keeping more diverse users away?

The more diverse users are the ones that aren't realistically worried about their online privacy and are too used and comfortable with what the big names offer. They're more likely to be the ones that would only move once "everyone they know" moves.

Also, consider that the "advertising", the message and reason for joining the fediverse, It's like [Twitter/Reddit/Instagram] when they were good, minus the corporate meddling and greed and algorithmic shit shoveling!, only really catches the attention of a few types of people.

Average Joe and Jane won't move out, "there's nobody there (that they care about)". Internet famous Joes and Janes won't move either, because they will lose a significant portion of followers.

People are willing to put up with A LOT of shit to avoid moving out of places like Instagram, Twitter, Reddit or Tiktok, since the time spent there makes them feel like it's a place where they belong to.

[–] spaceduck@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Early 20s here.

[–] AlaskaMan@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’m 36 but a tech potato.

I can build a computer and do basic troubleshooting. That’s about it.

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[–] Toasteh@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

This is a constant cycle.

Tech nerds invent new technology/platform>nerds flock to new thing>the masses hear about it and start flooding it>money notices a large user base that isn't being complete wrung out for money>money destroys the new thing by making it unusable for profit>repeat

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[–] Devgard@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

from my own experience, that's definitely the case for Mastodon, except people are 40 and up.

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[–] darkstar@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago

Millennial checking in. Not a Linux user, not a programmer, occasionally plays Minecraft

[–] ErwinLottemann@feddit.de 9 points 1 year ago

I use arch btw

[–] kerr@aussie.zone 9 points 1 year ago

The Reddit migration was probably mostly people who know what an API is so that fits your demographic.

Also, people generally don’t take a stance on something unless it affects them personally. So API, privacy, data collection etc just doesn’t register.

[–] sammeeeeeee@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Just turned 18. Work in tech, but not a Linux user (yet). Non of my friends used Reddit in the first place, so for sure non are on lemmy

[–] wilberfan@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] gooddaytodayhere@vlemmy.net 9 points 1 year ago

Fit the first one. Not the other two 😂

[–] Kal@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

I also fit the description. I wonder if I see the internet differently having grown up pre Web 2.0. With tech corporations cracking down on user freedoms, I can't imagine jumping ship, say from Twitter to Meta, and expecting to be treated any differently.

As a nerd, I'll use a platform that works the way I want, even before the content is there. Hopefully as the amount of content grows it gets more diverse and normies will take interest.

[–] dysseus@monero.town 8 points 1 year ago

Most people are older than 30.

[–] debeluhar@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (8 children)

I would say picking a server. Regular users shouldn't be bothered with that. I wouldn't say multiple server choice is a bad thing, it's actually great thing, but regular users shouldn't be bothered with that. Maybe hide server selection behind advanced section or something like that, so regular users aren't bothered with that, but more tech savy users can still find that option if they would like to. And default option for server can be lemmy.world for example (or any other server). If using lemmy is too dificult for regular users and learning curve is too big, they will not bother with that and they will just leave. I am using Connect for Lemmy now and I think lemmy.world is selected by default. I am just using it and I was never bothered with concept of multiple servers, and I really like that I don't have to worry about that.

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[–] brayd@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 1 year ago

I am younger than 25, but I’m a Sys-Admin.

However my mother also uses the Fediverse and has nearly to none technical knowledge.

Also my cousin who’s 15 uses it. And some friends of mine who are between 18 to 26 use it without being what you typically would call a nerd.

So I think for the majority it applies but there are also people here not fitting in this sector.

[–] monobot@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Yes, that's why it is so good.

I guess we are the ones remembering how it was 15+ years ago

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[–] MaDeX@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

43 year old tech signing in.

[–] thelsim@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago

Bah, I'm three raccoons in an overcoat.
Who.. have a steady IT job.. dang it.

[–] BlessedDog@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago

Age 16 here. I'm getting old, eh?

[–] Crudman@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm normier than the listed demographics and find the Fediverse and it's associated jargon to be inline with 4 dimensional crochet in terms of ease of use

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