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[–] SuddenDownpour@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (4 children)

We SHOULD be telling people to use planes less though.

[–] BottleUpAndExplode@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do you think people use planes for fun? Only way I can see my family is by plane. Well, I can go by ferry but that means I will have to spend about 20x money and it'll take about 48 hours on the ferry, instead of 1.5 hours on the plane.

[–] Skua@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"We should use planes less" is not "you mustn't use planes ever". Not every plane journey can easily be replaced. That's okay. Near me there's a flight that takes off to go a few hundred miles to the country's capital each morning, and there are similar ones going much shorter distances all over the country. That journey could and should be a high speed train journey with suitable infrastructure

[–] laylawashere44@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You always get this kind of outrage when you tell people to do anything less. Eat less meat: How dare you tell me I cannot eat meat! I work hard every day at the blue collar job and all I want to do is to come home to a nice steak!

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[–] TemporaryBoyfriend@lemmy.ca 18 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Strange how people can be so oblivious as to the role they play in the consumption of energy and materials...

I've recently started to believe that the only way climate change is going to end is if a very, very large percentage of the human population dies off very quickly... like... 70-80% or more. One billion people still seems like too many.

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[–] ambiguous_yelp@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 1 year ago (4 children)

71% of corporations is the new climate denial were at the bargaining stage now: "well the drastic sacrifice were going to have to make doesnt matter because corporations need to do something before I even attempt to start living in line with earths resources"

[–] Mannimarco@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

But these corporations have the power to change what we as consumers buy or use, they have and are still resisting any changes and lie continuesly.

And if these companies don't allow change it will not happen no matter what we do.

They own the media they own the politicians, without them we are doomed.

Some might say we are already doomed and the elite are squeezing the last out of us because they think they will somehow escape the consequences

[–] fulano@lemmy.eco.br 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

To what extent are we victims, and to what extent are we part of the system? This isn't a simple thing to answer, and there's not a single answer.

Corporations have too much power, but people fell into consumerism and fanboyism, defending their practices.

People talk about reducing electronic trash, but will buy the next shiny device at launch, before the last one stops working, will say that it's a "needed improvement" when someone criticizes things like phones removing audio jacks, and look at people using older stuff as if they're crazy. People talk about damaging production chains, but won't prioritize local small ones. There are so many examples, but this is enough to get the idea.

Somehow, people love brands and corporations.

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[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 year ago (4 children)

It's both really.

Finger pointing at corporations while doing nothing may not be as bad as corps finger pointing at us while doing nothing. But it's still bad.

Everyone needs to make an effort on this.

Hoping corporations will somehow grow a conscience isn't accomplishing anything.

Imagine if nearly everyone was using public transit instead of voting out politicians because gas prices got a little too high. That might make the corps think there was more money in green energy than drilling up more oil.

Corporations are not going to fix the problem out of the goodness of their hearts no matter how much people whine about it. It's only going to happen when voters (and consumers) demand it.

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[–] object_Object@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Those things still help though, and we have no control over what big ass corporations do

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[–] Cybermass@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

This is just a fact, and since media outlets never mention it you can tell who they are in the pocket of (the large corp advertisers)

[–] Hyperreality@kbin.social 15 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Have we tried to kill all the poor?

I'm not saying do it. I'm saying run it through the computer, see if it would work.

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[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 12 points 1 year ago

BUT MAH PROFITS!! WON'T SOMEBODY PLEASE THINK OF MAH CORPORATE PROFITS????

[–] redditcunts@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And they are just burning that shit into nothing for no reason. Not my fault the world is burning, it's the evil corps forcing us to buy shit.

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[–] paciencia@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

also don't forget to pee in the shower guys

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