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Lucasfilm used its part of the Disney Showcase at D23 to both tease the second season of “Andor” and offer the first tease of “The Mandalorian & Grogu” movie. First up, the second season of “Andor” had little on offer – no artwork, release date or stills – just a behind-the-scenes featurette only for the […]

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[–] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 26 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Andor is so criminally underrated. Best Star Wars out there.

[–] Nouveau_Burnswick@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 10 points 3 months ago

The people not watching it.

[–] PunchingWood@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Guess it's difficult for people to get into the show. As the first episode really isn't that good or interesting to be fair. Most other episodes are excellent though.

I bet lots of people also turn it down because they heard/read it doesn't involve lightsabers or the force, or any big characters from the franchise needing to carry the show. Which honestly makes it much more interesting.

I often recommend the show to others. But it seems like very few catch on. It's similar with Rogue One being probably the best SW movie in the last decade, but hardly got the attention it deserved.

[–] golli@lemm.ee 4 points 3 months ago

For me the reason it took a while to come around and watch Andor was that by the time it released we've had quite a bit of mediocre Star wars content recently released. So there was some fatigue setting in.

[–] Zahille7@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

It took me a couple tries to get into it. Then it clicked during the heist when Skeen yelled "LET'S GOOOO!" to the hostages to start loading up the transport. Idk he just brought an energy that I really liked.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I think Andor is amazing, and appeals to a broader audience than the current Star wars conveyor belt. Unfortunately because it is different, the current core fan base may not get what they want, no cameos, no lightsaber fights, but I think that's a good thing. You have to show people that Star wars is sophisticated again. And that's going to take a little bit of time. Really happy it got greenlit for season 2

[–] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, but the show is so excellently written that it does not even need those "core elements" you're used to. In fact, if they had them, it would just make it even better than it already is. Andor just feels so much more real and mature compared to anything else. I've never felt so much dread in regards to the empire. And the writing, acting and overall presentation is so good that you immediately get immersed into the world. It's also moderate on the humor instead of the constant comedy shit that SW has become recently, where they have to shoehorn in something funny every few minutes.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 3 points 3 months ago

Andor is so well written, you could change the name, not reference the star wars franchise at all - people who never watched star wars and knew nothing about it could watch it, enjoy it, and have a blade runner like experience and be really happy.

That is so unique for modern star wars properties!

[–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 months ago

I think it's rated accurately, everything else has been so trash it just looks better by comparison. Just like Wonder Woman in the DC universe.

[–] golli@lemm.ee 11 points 3 months ago (3 children)

I'll assume for the mandalorian movie to make sense you'll need to have seen the full series? And for that one might also want/need to watch some of the boba fett one?

That would feel like a lot of homework for a movie for anyone, who is not a huge fan.

[–] ShadowCat@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

To be fair, it has probably been the most popular of the Star Wars shows with a lot of casual audiences getting Disney+ just for it.

Also based on the ending of S3, it might be a bit of a fresh start, as long as they do a minor bit of explanation on who Mando is and that Gorgu survived order 66 there's nothing too important they'll be missing

[–] golli@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago

Yeah, no doubt that it was the most popular one, but I think it's still a potential limitation to the target audience. Especially because it's not even just a season limited season, but 3 with some crossover to another one.

It's good that you mention that it might not need as much previous knowledge, but they better communicate that. And even then I feel like some might feel like they miss out not having seen the series, while at the same time not wanting to be forced to watch it.

[–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 months ago

I doubt it will require more than knowing he's a mandalorian with a baby Yoda sidekick.

[–] whenthebigonefinallyhitsla@kbin.run 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

given the spanking doctor strange received for requiring audience participation in a tv series, i don't think disney are going to do that again

[–] golli@lemm.ee 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yeah the marvel comparison comes to mind. And if I remember correctly that was just a single season of WandaVision. So much less compared to the 3+boba Fett crossover in this case.

There definitely is a good amount of overlap between movie and tv audiences, especially for something like Star Wars, but they definitely aren't completely the same.

[–] wjrii@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

By the same token, there's a long tradition of successful shows eventually "getting a movie," with varying degrees of success of course. They may bungle it, but it's not like it's an unprecedented challenge for screenwriters.

[–] golli@lemm.ee 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

But those aren't usually big budget movies, right? Probably more in line with the cost of a few episodes. And how often do they get a theatrical release?

I'm obviously just speculating here, but i assume the Star Wars Mandalorian movie will get a proper release with a marketing campaign and all the jazz. Doubt they'll just make something cheap and drop it straight on D+.

[–] wjrii@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Agreed, and I guess Star Trek would be the gold standard here, though many TV series would get a movie that received broad release, even if it wasn't expected to be an absolute blockbuster. It doesn't happen quite so much anymore, so, like, it's an older code, sir, but it checks out.

[–] golli@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago

Star Trek is probably a better comparison, than what i was thinking of. My mind was more on things like El Camino: A Breaking Bad Movie that got a very, very limited release and serves as an epilogue. Or maybe the Psych movies that are probably more like an episode in movie form (havent seen them).

Guess we get to see how this format works out nowadays.