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[–] TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world 48 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I wish my fellow leftists would realize that protests like these don't work. We don't further our cause by alienating ourselves from the political mainstream. We need to be concerned with the efficacy of our actions, not only the justification for them. Having good intentions is not enough, we also need effective strategies.

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 30 points 3 months ago (19 children)

Well... I was wondering how long it would take you to go from posting anti-Biden articles to anti-Harris articles.

Looks like it only took a couple of weeks.

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[–] uienia@lemmy.world 30 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

What this hack piece of news failed to report:

Before her rally in Detroit, Vice President Kamala Harris spoke briefly with the co-founders of the Uncommitted National Movement, which mobilized tens of thousands of voters in Michigan to withhold their votes from President Biden in the primary earlier this year over his support for Israel’s war in Gaza. Abbas Alawieh and Layla Elabed said they were in the welcoming line for Harris and Governor Walz, and communicated to Harris that they wanted to support her but that voters wanted her to consider an arms embargo to immediately stop the carnage in the besieged enclave.”

Harris listened to stories of people in Michigan who have had dozens of family members killed in Gaza. The leaders asked to meet with her about the embargo request, and she indicated she was open to it, and introduced the two leaders to her staff.

[–] archomrade@midwest.social 6 points 3 months ago

They kinda did tho:

Leaders of the Uncommitted National Movement, which supported voting "uncommitted" on Democratic primary ballots rather than voting for Biden, briefly spoke with Harris at the Detroit rally.

"Michigan voters want to support you, but we need a policy that will save lives in Gaza right now. I meet with community members every day in Michigan who are losing tens and hundreds of family members in Gaza. Right now, we need an arms embargo," Layla Elabed, a co-founder of Uncommitted, told Harris, according to the group.

[–] dan1101@lemm.ee 29 points 3 months ago

That's fair, people are there to listen to Harris not whatever random audience members can shout the loudest.

[–] RozhkiNozhki@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Took me too long to realize ozma is truly a concern troll. Rooting for Harris while shitting on Biden, now shitting on Harris like they didn't endorse her just recently. Blocked.

[–] queue@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

"Genocide is bad, and I want to criticize those who stand by and let it happen."

"Erm, concern trolling much?!"

[–] RozhkiNozhki@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

If you look at other threads about the same news piece she had a meeting with the uncommitted about Gaza prior to her rally. Who's ignoring who?

[–] queue@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The person saying "Don't publicly criticze me, I will agree behind doors where the press and public can't see it. The public don't need to see me make public statements that murder is bad."

[–] RozhkiNozhki@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago (2 children)

She's quite vocal about her position on Gaza. What do you want her to do exactly? She can let these people shout all they want and this will help how?

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[–] return2ozma@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Politics is messy. It's ok to criticize politicians. They're not your friend. They work for us. Never said don't vote for her. I'm saying she's really going to lose some of the young vote she just gained back if she keeps it up. Also the uncommitted voters.

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