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For years, I was a very prominent community member on r/vans (different username). I have been a very large content creator there and loved the community, but I'm thru with reddit.

I had the random thought to search google images for the shoes I've posted, searching "vans [model keyword] reddit" and I was surprised to see that my posts were consistently the top image results. Half the time the first image result was one of mine, and the vast majority of the time my images were the 2nd and 3rd image results.

Here are some examples.

Those are just the tip of the iceberg. I realize now that one user absolutely can make a measurable impact, as I have undoubtedly directed an absurd amount of traffic to reddit and r/vans thru image search engines over the years. Not anymore!

I went thru reddit manually deleting years of posts off of r/vans (admins can undue the script deletion). Now there are 100s of image results on search engines that just go to my deleted reddit posts!

Most importantly.. I have created !vans@lemmy.world (alt link for apps that don't support that format) and strongly encourage any Vans fans to check it out! I have also published the greatest shoe cleaning guide on the internet over there!

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[–] Dragonmind@lemm.ee 128 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I think the most insulting thing is that reddit wants to monetize off of things like YOUR efforts and YOUR content. Stuck it to em' and made us proud! Nice work! Hope your new community does well.

[–] GildedGriffon@discuss.tchncs.de 49 points 1 year ago (1 children)

While also farming out the content moderation to volunteers.

[–] Sinnz@feddit.de 36 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And still not being profitable lmao

[–] baked_tea@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Mind boggling how many people can work for you for free and you still can't make money

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

They're making money. Not turning a business profit and not making money are two very different things. You can become a billionaire with a business that never turns a profit in the accounting books.

[–] Sinnz@feddit.de 21 points 1 year ago

Profiting from the work others in true capitalist fashion.

[–] everythingsucks@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean, isn’t that what YouTube, Instagram and TikTok do?

[–] prtm@lemm.ee 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

At least you get some of the profits on the platforms. On Reddit you just get karma.

[–] everythingsucks@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah that’s a good point.

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[–] MargotRobbie@lemmy.world 47 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Again, the easy way to ruin them would be to sneak a couple of "as an AI language models" into threads, preferably pre-2022, with a large number of posts to poison the data and render the entire thread unusable.

[–] ultratiem@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I like how u roll stranger

[–] MargotRobbie@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hey, I'm just lazy, and that was the way to deal the most damage with the least amount of effort.

[–] ultratiem@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

You say lazy I hear efficient

[–] glorious_albus@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Not to be that guy but admins can absolutely revert even your manual deletion.

[–] Sshaggy@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Re-upload with pics of a vehicle instead?

[–] Hyperreality@kbin.social 15 points 1 year ago

Re-upload with pics of large dicks.

[–] herrvogel@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That assumes reddit doesn't version their data, which they probably do. In that case they could revert that too without even having to go through the trouble of restoring the data from backup, which they probably keep as well.

TL;DR you're not gonna manage to make reddit lose your data. They can get it back if they care enough and if it's hosted within their domain.

[–] GONADS125@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mostly posted thru imgur albums automatically generated thru my 3rd party app, rather than reddit hosted images.

[–] glorious_albus@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You could go to Imgur and delete your albums (or make them private or something, I don't know how Imgur works).

[–] GONADS125@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I read on here recently that imgur deleted standalone posts not attached to users, which I believe would include the links generated by my 3rd party client. They were not attached to my imgur account. I think imgur's self-destruction took care of it for me.

[–] glorious_albus@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

It's fascinating how all these websites have decided to kill themselves all at the same time.

[–] Thteven@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (4 children)

That's why I didn't delete my account yet, I want to be able to edit my comments when they revert them. I'm just going keep editing and editing, who knows what scripts I'll run this week?

[–] kenoh@lemm.ee 19 points 1 year ago

So get this, I've been slowly injecting random characters into my posts. Just every day that I think about it I go through my history and ctrl+shift+9 to get a random string from Bitwarden and plug it in for a page of posts. I figured it might not look like a mass delete/replace as much as a scripted one is, and doesn't take me much time.

However, I just noticed today that I can now only view 6 years of my old post history, while I've been posting for 12 years. this wasn't like this earlier this week. I can even find 11 year old posts if I know what specifically to look for. I've even tried with the newer web interface and my history cuts off at 6 years.

They're definitely onto us, even people doing it slowly.

[–] 0x2a@feddit.ch 6 points 1 year ago

Watch out, you might run into api cost issues with these scripts :)

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[–] Kietan@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Depends your location, IIRC Europeans can request permanent deletion of their content and they are required by law to comply.

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[–] blakerboy777@lemmy.one 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] mild_giardiniera@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

I had no idea that there was a sub for vans the entire 10 years I was on Reddit. Anyways, I'm now subscribed here!

[–] trouser_mouse@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

Keep an eye for old posts you have deleted being restored.

[–] Lurker@lemmy.zip 18 points 1 year ago
[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah if you had a highly upvoted answer to a question and want to inflict maximum damage, just ask chatGPT to generate a couple paragraphs of SEO terms for the question, replace your answer with that.

[–] sawdustprophet@midwest.social 9 points 1 year ago

just ask chatGPT to generate a couple paragraphs of SEO terms for the question, replace your answer with that.

Chaotic neutral boss energy.

[–] SighBapanada@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 year ago

Doing the lords work

[–] Alivrah@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

I hope to see more and more people doing this

[–] Diabolo96@lemmy.fmhy.ml 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

i never heard of vans before. Nonetheless, it's good seeing such a niche community on lemmy. Maybe create a post on reddit to ask users to join your community as It's hard for it to be randomly discovered by users as of now.

[–] GONADS125@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I tried and was downvoted even when I made an actual contributing post, and limited it to mentioning the lemmy community only in the comments.

The core r/vans community and SamTheKing25 (top mod) is awesome and supported the blackout when voted on. But the overall reddit community has grown so toxic.. And while r/vans may be niche, it is in the top 5% largest subreddits.

So while the most active posters/supportive community members may remain, they are outnumbered by a very toxic mass, many of whom mostly just vote and sometimes comment. And they are solely the community members responsible for the rare hateful comments in r/vans. Sadly I think the user-base of reddit as a whole will only grow more toxic.

Edit: Want to clarify that I made a reddit post that was well received before the blackout happened, in which I did link c/vans. But I made another post sharing a new pair the other day, and was downvoted for mentioning lemmy in the comments.

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wouldn't be surprised if the Reddit admins have it set up to automatically downvote anyone mentioning one of the alternatives. It makes me wonder how often they were messing with the apparent popularity of many posts and comments. Like somethings that were downvoted were just baffling as to why anyone would have a problem with that specific thing being said.

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[–] coconutxyz@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Wait till they have lesser quality stuff to consume!

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[–] 200ok@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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[–] Glarrf@midwest.social 6 points 1 year ago

Happy to have you! Thank you for your hard work!

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