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Kamala pledges to pass border bill (www.vanityfair.com)
submitted 3 months ago by alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml to c/politics@lemmy.world
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The bill in question is the one Biden tried to pass, but was blocked by republicans after Trump called it a bad bill, despite containing only things the republicans want.

It would enable the president to shut down the border and gives billions to ICE, CPB, US Marshals, etc to increase detention capacity, train additional personnel, etc. It also gave billions to Israel and Ukraine.

Kamala gonna have the immigrant vote locked up.

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[–] TommySoda@lemmy.world 15 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

As an average American that works in a field that has a lot of immigrants, just fucking stop. I have never in my entire life had a bad experience with an immigrant that couldn't have been from a regular US citizen. In fact, most of the people I've met that are illegal immigrants are cool as hell. I've even worked with people that don't speak English while I can't speak Spanish and gotten on just fine. Even had inside jokes while we couldn't even talk to each other. It's almost like we're all just fucking people trying our best to live our best life.

How about instead of constantly trying to treat the symptom we actually do something meaningful? About instead of treating these people like garbage we actually treat them like people?

I'm sure this is her way of getting Republican votes but this just feels half assed and wrong.

[–] djsoren19@yiffit.net 14 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Fucking why?

The Democrats are trying to fight a problem that has been entirely fabricated by the Republican party. There is no migrant crime wave, there is no "invasion" on the southern border, and there is no reason to implement harsher restrictions on the border than to appeal to voters who do not live in our reality.

There are definitely good steps we can make on immigration reform, namely funding for more judges to hear more asylum cases to try and punch through the backlog, but adopting a draconian policy because a propoganda machine has spread a myth is not the way forward. Trying to pass legislation like this just gives the myths made by Fox News more credibility.

[–] morphballganon@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

to appeal to voters who do not live in our reality

Sounds like you've got it

[–] djsoren19@yiffit.net 1 points 3 months ago

That's a terrible idea though. The efforts should be focused on reaching the people who still have functioning brains who have been tricked into thinking migrant crime is a serious issue and deprogramming them, not hurting real migrants over a fantasy.

[–] verdantbanana@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago (2 children)

so more kids in detention centers?

[–] qprimed@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

?

if personnel is policy, then a good executive can make all sorts of improvements to otherwise crappy bipartisan laws.

we know nothing yet and it would probably be a good idea to see what we get before we take to the streets with pitchforks.

[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 months ago

Conventional wisdom among Democrats since the Clinton administration has been: "if you triangulate yourself to be one iota to the left of the opposition, every center-right moderate republican will vote democrat. And everyone left of them has to vote democrat anyway, so you’ll win a majority as long as you're right of the majority. If you lose, it's because you didn't go far enough to the right."

This doesn't actually work, since fascists just vote for the real thing over diet-fascism, and democrats passing right-wing policy decreases their turnout, but pretending it does allows them to justify policies that don't conflict with their donor's interests.

[–] HuntressHimbo@lemm.ee 5 points 3 months ago

Oof, really wish she wouldn't.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

There is literally no reason to do this except to put pressure on immigrants and the proletariat

[–] blazera@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

Just run as a republican if you want republican voters so bad

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