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[–] oatmilkmaid@possumpat.io 359 points 1 year ago (18 children)

Bitwarden all day every day. I don’t even know any of my passwords because they’re all randomly generated. Try to guess my password now hacker man

[–] Monologue@lemmy.zip 61 points 1 year ago (14 children)

yup randomly generated 20+ digit passwords are the way to go

[–] Zectivi@lemmy.world 85 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Same, just gotta watch out for sites that don't support it and don't tell you that they don't. I got into a password reset loop with a site once, until I realized it was truncating my 20 character password to their supported max of 16. They never said the max was 16, and never game an error that 20 wasn't allowed. Just simply an asshole design. I probably could check bitwarden for whatever password I changed the most and see if it's still an issue with the site.

[–] butternuts@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago

I consider this lazy programming. I've had it happen a few times but luckily it has been rare for me.

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[–] Species8472@lemmy.world 147 points 1 year ago (10 children)
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[–] BrikoX@vlemmy.net 117 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

What are your thoughts on password managers?

They are mandatory in current digital age.

Do you use one?

Yes. Bitwarden.

Would you recommend it to others?

Already do and most are receptive to it once you show them that every single one of them were caught up in a breach at some point.

[–] Asafum@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

But what about Bitwarden? What you say about the breach is exactly what I'm worried about when having ONE source that has EVERY password. At least now I have different passwords for different sites so only one can be affected, it's just a pain in the ass to have to go look them up. I save a portion of my passwords with cryptic messages that only I understand.

I can't think of anything that hasn't been hacked, I feel like it's just a matter of time before these password sites are too if they haven't already. :/

[–] zahel@lemmy.world 58 points 1 year ago (7 children)

The way that Bitwarden stores your data, it is encrypted as a blob on AWS. If anyone compromises Bitwardens infrastructure, they can’t do anything because even Bitwarden doesn’t have the keys to decrypt your vault.

Your vault can only be decrypted with your master passwords, and decryption happens locally, on device. No decrypted information is sent over the internet.

As far as someone gaining access to your master password and this all other passwords stored in the pass manager, that is why 2 factor authentication exists.

I could give you my Bitwarden master password right now, but that won’t help if you don’t also have my 2fa code.

And that’s just talking about using the hosted version of Bitwarden.

If you self host, you don’t even have to have the app available to the public internet, and can access it purely through a vpn to your LAN.

Then the attacker would not only need to have access to your local network, also know your master password, and have access to your 2fa.

If they know that much about you, you have larger concerns.

So in short, your concern is mostly addressed and not really a concern if you utilize the features provided, such as 2fa

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[–] RealFknNito@lemmy.world 70 points 1 year ago (7 children)

KeePassXC here. Locally encrypted, Locally stored, cloud backup of an encrypted file, synced with SyncThing to mobile devices. I will never trust nor recommend a cloud based manager with all the breaches.

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[–] DogMom@lemmy.world 67 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I'm in the Bitwarden camp. There is no other way for me to have complex/secure passwords and remember them for my gazillion accounts.

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[–] bunkbed@feddit.uk 64 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Password manager-less life with notebooks and reused passwords is life in the stone age. If you or anyone you know isn't using one, get on bitwarden.

Everyone knows why password manageras are absolutely essential, but here's an often neglected perk: I can list every site I ever signed up to. Wanna delete some old accounts? "Did you sign up to X yet?" Simples.

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[–] Robboman93@lemmy.world 63 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Bitwarden is really great imo.

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[–] kalipike@lemmy.one 59 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

A password manager is an absolute must, in my opinion! I use Bitwarden and love it.

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[–] CrypticFawn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 53 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

Bitwarden fan over here. Been using it for a month and I have just 1 complaint; can't sign into the Android app. Signing in with my mobile browser works though. No idea why the app is being fussy. I'll contact them about it when I stop being lazy.

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[–] Alperto@lemmy.ml 53 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Yes, do it! Now! It’s the safest way, but only by choosing the right and trusted ones. Examples:

  • The expensive but good one: 1Password
  • The free, geeky and difficult one for normal users: Keepass.
  • The simple and free and beloved one: Bitwarden
  • The don’t try it ever because they will leak your data: Lastpass.
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[–] techtalkf@lemmy.world 52 points 1 year ago (5 children)
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[–] art@lemmy.world 51 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Everyone should be using a password manager. Every service should have a different password (and some service should have several passwords) and it's impossible for the average person to keep track of all of those. Every time I hear about someone losing control of an account it's because they were using the same password as another service.

I recommend:

  • KeePassDX: Can be completely offline. Probably the most secure but can be a little awkward to use sometimes.
  • Bitwarden: Cloud based but open source. You could run a server but the main service offers MOST of the features for free.

Your mileage may very with some of the proprietary platforms. However my job uses 1 Password and it seems to be fairly safe.

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[–] derin@lemmy.beru.co 46 points 1 year ago (5 children)
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[–] sunbunman@lemm.ee 42 points 1 year ago

Yes, Bitwarden is the way to go

[–] AAR@rdr.lol 42 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Bitwarden is just fantastic, it works so well. After migrating from LastPass years ago to BW I haven't looked back once and have encouraged friends to switch over as well.

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[–] Tucumano88@lemmy.zip 36 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Keepass, from here to eternity

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[–] tobier@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Bitwarden. Integrates extremely well on Android and on my PC in Firefox.

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[–] kratoz29@lemmy.fmhy.ml 35 points 1 year ago (5 children)

My opinion is that they are a godsend, and it baffles me why neither Apple nor Google have a proper client for this...

Thankfully Bitwarden exists.

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[–] camelCaseGuy@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago (17 children)

In general, password managers are a must-have in today's world. The question is not if you should have one, but which one and why.

As a Software Engineer very conscious about security and privacy, but also with a high practicality sense, I'd say you should opt for whatever you feel more comfortable.

If you don't want to manage anything, then 1password, BitWarden, LastPass or any of those might be right for you. If you are more of the kind to tinker with everything, then you can have your own OwnCloud/NextCloud and use KeePassXC.

I particularly used the later setup, but NextCloud was too much to handle for me, and settled with KeePassXC + Dropbox.

You do you, but use a password manager.

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[–] Zaazu@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Another vouch for bitwarden, its free and has everything I need. Been using it for at least 5 years.

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[–] regex1883@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

bitwarden. Using it 4 years extremely happy. Did you know they allow creating a password up to 128 characters

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[–] Cralex@lemmy.one 33 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

I can’t imagine life without one. So many bad password habits can be eliminated by using a password manager to generate a strong, unique password for every site you use, and devoting your limited password-remembering powers to one decent master password. (Or better yet, secure your password manager further using other forms of authentication.)

It’s not just for helping you (and your less technically inclined friends and family) remember and use strong, unique passwords, though. Since a password manager only recognizes the real web address that any given password was designated to, it won’t be fooled by a scam website using a similar-looking name to a legitimate one. While this doesn’t eliminate the risk of falling for a scam, every little bit helps, no matter how skilled you are at cybersecurity.

I use Bitwarden, which I’ve been using ever since Lastpass started limiting you to using a single device class (mobile or desktop) for free accounts. It integrates with both Firefox and Chromium-based browsers and with the password manager features in smartphones. Their free account is nice, but I went with the paid option so that I could keep and use 2FA passcodes within Bitwarden itself. There have been several debates between doing it like this versus using a separate authenticator app, but I feel like it’s both very secure and really, really convenient. It encourages me to use increased security on every website that supports it.

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[–] reddit_sucks@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago (9 children)

I absolutely love Bitwarden. They've never been hacked (to my knowledge). Are super transparent. Answer support tickets extremely quickly and it only costs $1 a month to use 2FA. The extension and app are super fast, extremely well made as far as user-experience goes and I have never had a problem with them.

Tried Keepass, KeepassXC, 1password, Nordpass, et cetera. Bitwarden does it all better imo and fits my use-case perfectly.

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[–] Nibbler@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago

I've used bitwarden for awhile now and even got my wife on it. I love it and it's simple to use.

[–] ScaNtuRd@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago (4 children)

KeePass. Hands down the most secure one if you set it up right

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[–] Spud29@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago

Been using Bitwarden for years now. It's one of the first apps I install on every new device or browser.

[–] CthulhuOnIce@lemmy.fmhy.ml 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I use bitwarden - I like it a lot plus you can self-host if you don't want to trust a third party

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[–] L3ft3r1s@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

One of the best decisions - software wise - I made was to switch from Lastpass to Bitwarden. Never going back!

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[–] Aggravationstation@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Keepass, synced between devices with Syncthing

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[–] Koalnivj@lemmy.ca 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] Moonwalk@lemm.ee 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

One more vote for Bitwarden over here. I use the paid version, which is really cheap and because it supports the development. Been using it for almost 5 years and it's the absolute best.

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[–] dunestorm@vlemmy.net 24 points 1 year ago (9 children)

At this point NOT using a password manager is absolutely insane from a security perspective. Password managers not only make your life easier, but if you use them correctly, you can setup each service with its own dedicated and complex password. Good luck doing that without one!

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[–] ModdedPhones@lemmy.ml 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I use keepass synced with internxt. Works so so , but internxt will hopefully improve

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[–] p000l@lemmy.sdf.org 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

KeePassXC / KeePassDX with Syncthing!

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[–] nx5qly@pawb.social 24 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Been using Bitwarden since 2017, I think.

I love it! I did use other password managers, but I ended up retaining Zoho Vault and KeePass. Zoho for work credentials while KeePass for archive and backup purposes.

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[–] donnachaidh@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I have been using BitWarden, and it's pretty good, but I'm shifting over to Keepass now, syncing the database with syncthing. Means I don't have to trust they won't be breached, but it is definitely a bit more of a faff to get set up. For anyone unsure, I would definitely recommend a managed service like BitWarden though. I got my sister on it, who would probably have a single password for everything otherwise, and she got the hang of it super quick.

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[–] sparrow@pawb.social 23 points 1 year ago (4 children)

This thread inspired me to take a look at Bitwarden. It's so much better than what I was using that I switched instantly.

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[–] magnolia_mayhem@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

Bitwarden is fine with me, but a company needs to earn my trust before I let them have that kind of information. Most companies out there just aren't trustworthy enough to hand that kind of data to.

[–] faethon@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Started out with lastpass many years ago, until it was bought by logmein. Have been using Bitwarden since.

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[–] Whirlybird@aussie.zone 22 points 1 year ago (8 children)

If you're not using a password manager then you're mostly likely 1 data breach away from not knowing how many other accounts of yours have been compromised.

They're so incredibly easy to use, they're all basically free, and they are essential IMO. I personally use Bitwarden, before that was LastPass until they first got rid of any reason to use the subscription, only to then lock multi-device use behind the subscription (oh and they got bought by LogMeIn, who are a garbage company). Bitwarden is better in every way, so it was a win. Happily paying for Bitwarden, and would recommend it to everyone.

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[–] rodneyck@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

KeePassXC is awesome, used it for years. Works great with browser plugin, secure. Sync with Syncthing across all computers and devices.

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[–] zephyr@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Trust no one. Not because you're paranoid, but because you don't need to.

Trust no one and just use KeePassXC.

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[–] Chadarius@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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