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Kamala Harris issues statement on the anti-genocide protesters in Washington DC. (lemmy.ml)

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https://xcancel.com/VP/status/1816490945501708660

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JULY 25, 2024

Statement by Vice President Kamala Harris

Yesterday, at Union Station in Washington, D.C. we saw despicable acts by unpatriotic protestors and dangerous hate-fueled rhetoric.

I condemn any individuals associating with the brutal terrorist organization Hamas, which has vowed to annihilate the State of Israel and kill Jews. Pro-Hamas graffiti and rhetoric is abhorrent and we must not tolerate it in our nation.

I condemn the burning of the American flag. That flag is a symbol of our highest ideals as a nation and represents the promise of America. It should never be desecrated in that way.

I support the right to peacefully protest, but let’s be clear: Antisemitism, hate and violence of any kind have no place in our nation.

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[–] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 129 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Burning the flag is protected speech. Dont want to see it burned? Make the country less shitty

[–] broton33@lemmy.world 38 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's true. Condemning burning the American flag is a just another form of covering your eyes or ears because you don't like what people are saying. We should both strive to improve our country, listen to protestors, and live up to the American ideals of freedom.

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

The country that also is still trying to eliminate its indigenous peoples has no "ideals" to live up to.

I highly recommend reading Roxanne Dunbar-Ortiz - an indigenous people's history of the US.

[–] broton33@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

Wdym? Aren't we living up to our nation's ideals of genocide? /s

[–] sunzu@kbin.run 30 points 1 month ago

She cars more about US flagg being burned than Palestinians being killed.

🤡🤡🤡

[–] Acernum@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Another point: Don't want it burned? Make a better looking flag

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[–] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 1 month ago

I'm finna burn me a flag tomorrow. Hell, they're cheap enough I could probs burn one a day all the way up to the election

[–] teamevil@lemmy.world 68 points 1 month ago (13 children)

God damnit stop supporting genocide too. Don't be antisemitic but also genocide is bad too

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[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 51 points 1 month ago (11 children)

So she lasted how many days before disappointing me? Four.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 month ago

To be fair, this was already her modus operandi, she just has the spotlight for it now.

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[–] walden@sub.wetshaving.social 35 points 1 month ago (16 children)

So much better than the other guy, though. Writing in a candidate will be fun for some people, but I'm choosing to vote for someone who 1) can win and 2) won't strip away freedoms in the name of religion.

[–] nullpotential@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Whataboutism adds nothing to the conversation and fails to address the criticism being discussed.

[–] Cube6392@beehaw.org 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

There's people in this thread saying "well then I'm gonna write in a socialist"

This isn't whataboutism, this is actual existential threat to this country and the stability of all the countries we send our military to. Kamala Harris' comments on the anti-genocide protest are wholly unacceptable and present the overall message as Pro-HAMAS, which it distinctly isn't, but we do still have to think about which piece of shit benefits most from writing in someone who cannot win in a first past the post election

[–] lemmysam@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

The US hasn't had democracy for at least 40 years. The owner class decide who we are allowed to elect (the money filter). The elected enact the policies that the owner class want.

Here is a tweet from Bernie from today:

Lina Khan, Chair of the FTC, pushed to get the non-compete agreement ban passed. Reid Hoffman is the Dem's version of Peter Thiel. He paid Harris $7 million so she will fire Khan and reinstate non-compete agreements once elected.

Results from a 2014 Princeton study that took data from nearly 2000 public opinion surveys over a 20 year span and compared it to the policies that ended up becoming law.

“The preferences of the average American appear to have only a miniscule, near-zero, statistically non-significant impact upon public policy.”

https://act.represent.us/sign/problempoll-fba

Direct link to the study: https://scholar.princeton.edu/sites/default/files/mgilens/files/gilens_and_page_2014_-testing_theories_of_american_politics.doc.pdf

The corporate duopoly bought and paid for the government a long time ago. The only solution is a united front based along class lines (working class vs owner class). Everything else is a distraction.

[–] linkhidalgogato@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago

40 years? my guy u are talking about a genocidal slave sate that was created in order to preserve slavery and commit more genocides a country where for much of its existence only white men with land could vote a country were when those blatant forms of discrimination became untenable did everything it could to ensure that only those people had any impact on politics. amerikkka was never a democracy

[–] thoro@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 month ago

Most of the population doesn't live in a swing state

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[–] Idreamofcheesy@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago (2 children)

She's going for that undecided vote. She figures everyone that fears Trump will vote for her regardless (not an outrageous idea) so she needs to secure all the right-leaning individuals that know trump is a psychopath.

Politicians gonna politics.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 month ago

There is no undecided vote, Kamala is competing with leftists who are abstaining or voting third party. Nobody on Trump's camp would vote for Kamala ever anyways, so if she pulled left she would get more voters, not lose them.

The DNC is fine with losing, though, so she won't.

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[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 21 points 1 month ago

Condemning a country for carrying out a genocide ≠ antisemitism. God I'm tired of doublespeak always winning.

[–] 100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it 16 points 1 month ago

I support the right to peacefully protest

She wants to change our profile picture or whatever empty performative gesturing fits her agenda, doesn't she?

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 month ago

Big oof.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 month ago

Common Kopala L.

[–] anachronist@midwest.social 12 points 1 month ago

Daily reminder that ACAB.

[–] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 1 month ago

She not like us, she not like us, she not like us

[–] delirious_owl@discuss.online 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Please don't post pictures of screenshots. Copy and paste the text.

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 month ago

Sorry, I'll edit the body with it.

[–] SweetCitrusBuzz@beehaw.org 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So, it begins.

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 29 points 1 month ago

US History repeating itself, ad nauseum.

[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 month ago

Fuck you, Kamala.

[–] Maven@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 month ago

Omfg

[–] SoJB@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You know what, nah. Fuck you Kamala, I’m writing in a socialist.

Had my vote for about 3 seconds.

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[–] Sweetpeaches69@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

FUCK

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