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[–] raphael@lemmy.mararead.com 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As with Protonmail it would be nice if they could focus a little bit more on their core product. Importing emails is still not possible with them. As an email provider. With an open issue about it from 2018 πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ.

[–] float@burggit.moe 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Does protonmail focus more on product?

[–] raphael@lemmy.mararead.com 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I would say it is even worse. Last thing a couple of days ago was a password manager which is quite lacking in functionality. Next to the encrypted cloud drive service which does not have any sync clients and an encrypted calendar service which is lacking in features that etesync has solved years ago. The most functional would be their VPN, which seems to be fine for its price.

And it is not like they would not have anything to do on their email service (next to the billing system, which cannot handle you buying the pro version of the password manager if you are already subscribed to their mail service)

[–] yote_zip@pawb.social 4 points 1 year ago

The most functional would be their VPN, which seems to be fine for its price.

Unfortunately no. Their VPN is perhaps the worst of their offerings (when it comes to Linux). Read my reply here and jjffnn's reply here

[–] wagoner@infosec.pub 2 points 1 year ago

There is a sync client for Proton Drive, it's just not rolled out to everyone yet as it's in testing. I have it, as a Visionary level account. The phone apps are freely available now, however.

[–] Adanisi@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Aren't the normal encryption algorithms used today quantum resistant anyways (like AES256)?

I'm all for stronger privacy and security, but this just seems like a gimmick, unless I'm missing something.

[–] blackfire@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago

I read somewhere its only currently hard due to the number of qbits. Once they get over a certain number (I forget what) they will be breakable

[–] QuazarOmega@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think so, also wasn't quantum computing a real threat for asymmetrical encryption only?
Some info over here

[–] Adanisi@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yeah, and since symettric encryption is usually used for file encryption and stuff like that, I honestly don't see the point in this.

[–] QuazarOmega@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Exactly, well if anything, I guess the claim is technically correct, which in this case may not be the best kind of correct

[–] pipariturbiini@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 year ago

Somehow I feel like they are going to have a desktop application for this drive service faster than Proton will.

[–] Kuski87@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A good option is self hosting with Raspberry Pi and Nextcloud. Using a cloud service is using someone else's computer.

[–] float@burggit.moe 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

brb cloning the quantum encryption repo on my raspberry pi

[–] menehar@feddit.ch 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

pq encryption algorithms have embedded optimized assembly implementations than can run a way less power than included in a raspi

[–] float@burggit.moe 1 points 1 year ago

Oh mb I didn't know I thought you needed like a supercomputer the size of Google HQ.

[–] Melody@lemmy.one 3 points 1 year ago

I genuinely hope they get this finished sooner than later.

[–] kyr7x@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wonder how much influence on the algorithms €1.5M from the German government is buying? It'd be nice if it could be entirely funded by subscribers instead.

[–] menehar@feddit.ch 4 points 1 year ago

it's better than NIST who previously certified an elliptic curve with mathematical weakness to offer them and NSA a nice backdoor

[–] YellowtoOrange@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The transistors are embedded in cheese. Totally impenetrable to quantum stuff.

[–] kittyrunningnoise@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

but quantum stuff can tunnel through the cheese, despite its inability to be penetrated

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