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I know that it's popular to dismiss President Biden. I get it. He's old. This is the first election featuring the 2 oldest candidates, ever. So what? The future of the WORLD is literally dependent on this election. To boot Biden from the ticket and try to bootstrap another candidate is madness. Booting this incumbent and hoping his VP will succeed is like firing the cook and hoping the dishwasher will give you Michelin-quality food. Stick with the old man, and figure out a way to enact his popular policies while also expanding the Supreme Court, enacting term limits and limiting "Christian" Nationalists.

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[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 40 points 4 months ago (52 children)

If this election is so important why are we being forced to vote for a genocidal mummy instead of having a Primary? πŸ€”

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[–] booty@hexbear.net 31 points 4 months ago (5 children)

The future of the WORLD is literally dependent on this election.

Wow sounds like they really should've put forward a better candidate than Biden screm-cool

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[–] Ildsaye@hexbear.net 27 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

good-lord Yes, and you say the Democratic Party considers this election the most important of our lifetimes despite the fact that the wavering in the party is obviously top-down

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 24 points 4 months ago

The future of the WORLD is literally dependent on this election.

Americans really need to get over themselves. πŸ˜‚

[–] happybadger@hexbear.net 22 points 4 months ago (1 children)
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[–] That_Devil_Girl@lemmy.ml 22 points 4 months ago (7 children)

I get it. He's old. So what?

No, you don't get it. It's not just a matter of age, it's a matter of severe cognitive impairment due to his age. He's a few brain cells away from becoming a gibbering vegetable.

It's rather alarming that the only qualification to be the Democrat nominee is to have a pulse. Not a brain, not an agenda, not a set of policies and initiatives. Just a pulse and nothing more.

At that point, who's actually making the decisions? Who controls the nuclear codes? Who is commanding the military? It's not Biden, but some anonymous unelected staffers?

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[–] PapaStevesy@lemmy.world 22 points 4 months ago (6 children)

No it's like firing the head chef who's always passed out in the walk-in and hoping one of the sous chefs who actually work the line every night making the food will give you Michelin-quality food. I mean, maybe not Harris in particular, but you get the point.

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[–] Count042@lemmy.ml 21 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (24 children)

Any call for sticking with a candidate with these poll numbers BEFORE the convention is a paid operation by Russians trying to get Trump elected.

*I don't actually think you're a bot, just preemptively using that argument when I know the idiots trying to tether us to an egotistical, genocidal asshole that will lose to Trump will call me a bot for pointing out correctly that Biden will lose.

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[–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 20 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The arrogance of Democratic leadership is fully on display here. I have nothing against Biden, he’s done great but he's too old and should have known he was going to be a one term president from day one and worked to hand the mantle over to younger candidates years ago.

Now here we are months from an extremely important election and we have to debate if he is physically fit for the job. It’s obvious bullshit and a complete failure of leadership for the Democratic Party.

A lot of people are going to just vote for him because the alternative is unacceptable. However there are a lot of people in the center in key swing states who don’t follow politics, don’t understand what is at stake that may not have that same attitude. To them the age issue is front and center in their decision making process.

This is the second time Dems have put a fundamentally flawed candidate up for the presidency. They need to fix their fucking process.

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[–] SoyViking@hexbear.net 20 points 4 months ago (4 children)

The future of the WORLD is literally dependent on this election.

Get an electable candidate then.

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[–] anachronist@midwest.social 19 points 4 months ago (5 children)

The future of the WORLD is literally dependent on this election

Been hearing this every four years my entire life.

Booting this incumbent and hoping his VP

I agree. Kamala is the worst politician in America. How did we end up in the timeline where we're stuck in the plot of VEEP?

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[–] D61@hexbear.net 16 points 4 months ago

feels like a bait post

figure out a way to enact his popular policies

Shouldn't... shouldn't he be trying to enact policies that the Democratic party supporters, progressives, liberals want? That seems to be what's sinking his re-election chances.

People don't want the genocide in Palestine to continue, but Joe is going to keep it going.

People don't want the USA to keep getting in the way of Russia and Ukraine ending the war there but Joe seems to be fine keeping it going.

People in general are pretty cool with transgender people getting proper healthcare throughout their lives. Biden's administration puts out messaging saying that trans healthcare is harmful to trans people so its okay to limit or ban it.

People are okay with abortion services being a thing. Biden is a pro-life candidate and hasn't really been doing anything to codify abortion services into any federal law.

People would like more affordable electric commuter vehicles. Biden's administration tariffs the shit out of Chinese manufactured electric vehicles available for import with some weak argument about it being "unfair."

There's probably more examples but shrugs its not like Biden is going to do anything. Waiting until the last few months before elections to suddenly put out messaging about changing how the supreme court is staffed instead of doing it almost four years ago when everybody was talking about how Trump got to pack the SC with only the ripest of reactionary picks and all the ways Biden could curb the effect the SC has on US politics/laws, feels too much like closing the barn doors after all the animals have got loose.

[–] mayo_cider@hexbear.net 15 points 4 months ago (6 children)

I was going to vote for biden but trump showed real gumption when he got shot so i switched sides

[–] Wakmrow@hexbear.net 8 points 4 months ago

If only he had shown more gumption

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[–] crusa187@lemmy.ml 14 points 4 months ago (14 children)

To bury your head in the sand and continue to claim Biden is the best chance to defeat Trump is madness.

Look, I get it, the DNC has placed us in a terribly frightening position due to their unwillingness to test the president in a real primary so he could show us he’s the best choice to beat Trump, and now in the final hour we are learning that was all smoke and mirrors. Biden is way down in all the polls, and forcing him onto the ticket now means certain defeat.

We still have plenty of time to generate enormous voter enthusiasm for a new ticket, more than Biden could ever garner, and we can use that to catapult the Dems to a big win in November. Have a process where candidates debate and demonstrate how their approaches would differ from where Biden was unpopular. Use a small fraction of the campaign war chest to televise it everywhere, especially online. This should include Kamala, and she needs to prove she can maintain her delegates if she wants the nom. Let’s not make the same mistake twice. Assuming she succeeds here, she is the incumbent VP, so would maintain that theoretical advantage, but we get the tailwind of a fresh ticket with a new VP who can totally change the narrative. This is the Dems’ chance to get back in the saddle and provide a new alternative people are willing to vote for - it should be celebrated!

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[–] Barx@hexbear.net 10 points 4 months ago

What time is it in Moscow?

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[–] Count042@lemmy.ml 7 points 4 months ago (6 children)

Sounds like Biden is likely to resign this weekend. I guess the entirety of the Democratic party is russian bots, right?

You might want to think through the thought process that lead you to be so wrong about what was happening, and why you ended up being a follower while the people you were following were deciding to go in the opposite direction.

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