It will mean the experiment failed. I'll go back to Europe where my ancestors came from, in the blink of an eye, and watch with popcorn as this place turns into Christian Iran
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I’ll go back to Europe where my ancestors came from
You're going to be in for a shock.
Look for YouTube videos where Americans move to modern societies like Germany or Denmark.
They are mind-bendingly overwhelmingly positive.
Look for YouTube videos
Uh huh
Before the civil war southerners talked shit about northerners as too comfortable and effete to fight. We know how that worked out. All fascists are bound to lose eventually. The question is how much pain and death will they cause before being suppressed.
Most rural towns would be dead in a month if a civil war happened. All those towns produce is meth, teenage pregnancy, and fibromyalgia disability. When the Dollar General runs out of food they will start killing each other.
I can see a few banjo clans attempting to invade cities and set up roadblocks.
The reality of it all is that rural/conservative America is already involved in a proxy civil war with the rest of america. They are using the Republican politicians as weapons to steal our tax dollars and funnel it into their failed existence while they pretend their gasoline corn is something good for the world.
I think it's oversimplifying to say all small town people are Republican or that small towns don't produce anything of value. For example people talk about Texas as a red state but millions of people there vote Democrat. (And plenty of Democrats aren't anti fascist) But you're right that in actual shooting war maga Republicans won't do as well as they think
millions of people there vote Democrat
Voting democrat doesn't mean your politics isn't still shit. Houstonian Dems put up John Whitmire for Mayor. That guy has done nothing but gargle cop balls and tear up bike lanes since he took office.
Before the civil war southerners talked shit about northerners as too comfortable and effete to fight.
After, too. The shit talking never really ended. It's been 160 years of smack.
No, I'm gonna sit back and laugh as a bunch of guys who couldn't schedule a meeting at the four seasons try to overthrow the world's oldest democracy.
Do not underestimate Trump. The last time people did that he won the damned election.
Do not underestimate Trump.
You can make some serious missteps by overestimating him.
But look around. Cop riots on ever campus from Columbia to UCLA with pigs firing tear gas and clubbing professors indiscriminately. All because some kids said "Free Palestine" on the lawn. There's this sense that things will be so much worse under Trump, when its all spiraled completely out of control six months before the next election.
Win or lose, this is turning into a country by, of, and for cops. They own our world, no matter who sits in the White House. The only real difference is whether the President eggs them on or looks the other way.
We're a constitutional Republic, dipshit. We're not even a true democracy and calling us the oldest when there are PUBS older than our country is ridiculous. We are YOUNG.
In case people don't know what Project 2025 is.
Here's the document:
AT LEAST READ THE FOREWARD. It very meticulously lays out their 4 goals:
- Restore the family as the centerpiece of American life and protect our children.
- Dismantle the administrative state and return self-governance to the American people.
- Defend our nation’s sovereignty, borders, and bounty against global threats.
- Secure our God-given individual rights to live freely—what our Constitution calls “the Blessings of Liberty
In plain language they want to:
- Effectively make LGBTQ+ persons illegal, unable to marry, adopt, or even exist openly, nationally ban abortion, ban education about black history and systemic racism;
- hamstring or eliminate a bunch of government agencies like the Department of Education, the EPA, the DOJ, Department of Homeland Security, and to eliminate many positions within the federal government or install loyal puppets;
- close our borders completely, pull out of NATO and the UN, invest heavily in oil, coal, and natural gas while divesting in renewable energy and removing environmental regulations, and exert extreme control over tech companies and universities;
- create school voucher programs which very much are to allow parents to segregate their children and use tax dollars to fund conservative, religious, private schools at k-12 levels, and eliminate social welfare programs. Also includes the contradiction of "champion the dynamic genius of free enterprise" and "include antitrust enforcement against corporate monopolies."
The whole thing is full of conservative buzz words, "anti-woke" rhetoric, and contradictions about free enterprise while wanting to exert control over people and "big tech."
But it's also dangerous because they're going to attempt to consolidate power to the next Republican president. There are complicated and far-reaching consequences to the things they're proposing that would take an academic paper to get into. For example, Ron DeSantis just signed a bill making lab-grown meat illegal because of the "global elite." It doesn't make any sense, but it's part of the reactionary, anti-leftist, culture war bullshit the Republicans are on right now.
That summary should be enough to show why this is so dangerous.
Here's the education of the guy who heads the think tank that made this bullshit up:
Roberts earned a Bachelor of Arts degree in history from the University of Louisiana at Lafayette, a Master of Arts in history from Virginia Tech, and a Ph.D. in American history from University of Texas at Austin.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Roberts_(academic)
So basically, a history professor with 3rd rate qualifications from 4th rate universities.
No experience or knowledge in politics whatsoever.
If this is the garbage that actually sparks off the next US civil war, I will lose my fucking mind at the stupidity of it all.
He's the president of the fucking Heritage Foundation. That makes him the head of one of the most influential political organisations in the country.
That's much more important than what his PhD was on.
O rly? Do tell how they are so influential-- without quoting their marketing material.
And if they have any influence whatsoever, frankly that makes it worse.
The Heritage Foundation has been providing fascists with talking points and directing policy.
So basically, a history professor with 3rd rate qualifications from 4th rate universities.
I'm sorry, what's up bro?
I'll never get this snob-tier shit, where you need to go to Eaton, Cambridge, and Oxford before we can take your bigotry seriously.
There are plenty of first tier universities in the US. Shame this guy couldn't get in to any of them
There are plenty of first tier universities in the US.
Some of the dumbest people in this country graduated Ivy
What's with the Republicans, don't they like their country and democracy any more?
Nope. They found out most folks are cool with the gays, educated people found out the "blacks commit crime" is actually "poor people commit crime", everyone uses thc, we're increasingly done with religion, media is representative of more than white cowboys who can only grunt "I'm manly!", and we are friends with aethiests, hindis, muslims, and jews.
Therefore we are obviously insane and have to die.
Don't forget Mexicans. Most people are cool with us doing the shit jobs nobody wants, but they don't like the idea of us being here.
We're going to replace all the migrants with robots. Any day now. Just you wait.
Democracy is only good when you're getting what you want.
When you're losing, its the Tyranny of the Majority, and it has to be stopped at all costs.
Would you fight a civil war?
With who? Against... who? Like, do I just go down to the city center and start swinging punches? Or are we saying there's some kind of mobilized resistance movement that's led by... uh... who, exactly?