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A social app for creatives, Cara grew from 40k to 650k users in a week because artists are fed up with Meta’s AI policies | TechCrunch (techcrunch.com)
submitted 5 months ago by Stopthatgirl7@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world
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Artists have finally had enough with Meta’s predatory AI policies, but Meta’s loss is Cara’s gain. An artist-run, anti-AI social platform, Cara has grown from 40,000 to 650,000 users within the last week, catapulting it to the top of the App Store charts.

Instagram is a necessity for many artists, who use the platform to promote their work and solicit paying clients. But Meta is using public posts to train its generative AI systems, and only European users can opt out, since they’re protected by GDPR laws. Generative AI has become so front-and-center on Meta’s apps that artists reached their breaking point

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[–] archchan@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I hate that Pixelfed isn't good enough to capture these users and I say this as someone who uses it over Instagram.

From the what I've seen (and I have been watching fairly closely), I think Pixelfed and the stretched-too-thin-can't-prioritize-and-somewhat-monarchial dev himself might just need more time to cook. I still have hope in him and his projects but I won't be holding my breath again. If good shit happens, it happens. And I do hope it happens because it should've been Pixelfed in this article like Mastodon was with Twitter or Lemmy with Reddit. Not whatever this new corp that came out of nowhere is.

[–] englislanguage@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 5 months ago

I think we should not expect a volunteer (or small group of volunteers) to keep up with a billion dollar company

[–] los_chill@programming.dev 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

What are the ways that US domains can block AI? I figure pay walls, and captchas, but is there something we can add to robots.txt that has any teeth against AI scraping? I mean would we even know if they obeyed it anyway? How do we set traps and keep this shit out?

[–] UndercoverUlrikHD@programming.dev 1 points 5 months ago

Capthchas haven't worked against serious actors for years and companies could easily pay for a user account. Anything a normal tech illiterate person can do, companies can automate. You sort of have to trust their pinky promise of not scraping content.

[–] Isthisreddit@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

Meta is just going to scrub all the Cara content into their AI system anyway. They have no fear because there are no real consequences

[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

step one of enshittification has begun. again.

[–] dumples@midwest.social 1 points 5 months ago

I just signed up and I know it's still centralized but I love being able to just look at art. Besides anything that is anti -AI I am in for

[–] ruse8145@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Is DeviantArt not a thing anymore? Or is this a different niche?

[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Anyone have the tl,dr on Cara? Good people? Open source? Funding source?

[–] Stopthatgirl7@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

Right now, it’s all being funded by one person, Zhang Jingna (a photographer that recently sued and won her case when someone plagiarized her work) but it’s grown so quickly she got hit with a $96K bill for one month.

[–] ZombieMantis@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Well, it's certainly better than Instagram... Who knows, maybe Cara could federate with ActivityPub in the future... Not that I'll keep my hopes up for that.

[–] nutsack@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

there are several platforms better than Instagram but none of them have the reach of instagram

[–] doodledup@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

As a European user, do I actively have to opt out or is it opt-out by default?

[–] Hedgehawk@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You have to opt-out. I got an email from meta with a link to the form. Doesn't seem to matter really what you write. It got approved in less than a minute for me. I think they purposfully made it look like it's more work than it's worth.

[–] doodledup@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

I have an easy solution for that: I think I'll just delete my account. I'm not using it anyways.

[–] tigerjerusalem@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

People talking about pixelfed are missing a key point: Cara is super easy to find and join. You go, type your email or login with your google account and that's it. You don't even have to remember a password. Nobody wants to find a server, apply to join, hope to get accepted, then somehow find all other artists like you.

Also, it looks good. Like, really good. That's a thing that grab the attention of artists.

[–] Lem453@lemmy.ca 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

This right here. I tried to join Mastodon today.

Download the most recommended app, Moshidon

Open app and get asked which instance i want to join. There are no suggestions.

Do a search for instances and pick one, go to the website and register with email and password. Requires email confirmation. Still waiting on the email confirmation link, 4 hrs later and 2 resends.

Literally haven't been able to sign up yet.

Even if it had worked, the workflow would have been to change back to the app, type out the instance then re-login.

I'm not sure how anyone expects anyone other than the most hardcore to sign up for these services. Maybe that's the point but if the point is to grow the user sign up process to significant overall

[–] Prandom_returns@lemm.ee 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

If you just used the Official app, they have a simplified sign-up procedure. Dug your own grave there.

[–] tigerjerusalem@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Thats not fair, since everyone says the main app suck and you'll have a better experience with Moshidon. This is true if you're already there, but the comment makes it clear that it still lacks for newbies.

[–] Prandom_returns@lemm.ee 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Never heard of Moshidon, so clearly not everyone. Why would anyone try to register via a non-official app first (especially for a procedure like signin-up) is beyond me. Some apps are better than others, but always start with the official one and then, if it lacks something, look for something else. This applies not only for mastodon, but for everything. Basic stuff...

[–] PopOfAfrica@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

They're just gonna have to leave whenever Cara makes some dumb decision. It's the capitalist app cycle.

[–] NotAnotherLemmyUser@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Whether it's "capitalist" or not doesn't matter. You could have government owned/created apps that make dumb decisions as well.

At least with capitalism you have the option to go somewhere else when a dumb decision is made.

[–] PopOfAfrica@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Most capitalist apps dont allow you to fork the code.

Lemmy, for example, is not owned by anyone and can altered if the main lemmy devs did something dumb.

Of course you already know this, its why you are here. You fled capitalism (Reddit) like the rest of us.

[–] Hotmailer@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago

No one flees capitalism. Stop talking like a Marxist. It's not possible to have communism in any guise without it collapsing. Exchanging goods and services for money incentives people to produce more. What you're talking about is corporate greed