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[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)
[–] MistressMaiden@pawb.social 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

So I did a little research on this -mostly because every Israeli person I’ve talked to IRL and online vehemently hates what their government is doing. And I found that this article states that the poll was taken from Israel Hayom, which according to Wikipedia is:

Owned by the family of Sheldon Adelson, a personal friend and benefactor of Prime Minister Benjamin NetanyahuIsrael Hayomhas often been criticized for portraying Netanyahu in an overly positive light.[8] In turn, Netanyahu has been accused of attempting to benefit Adelson's investments.

Basically, careful where you get your sources. A Palestinian YouTuber I follow said “don’t trust Western media” and I have to back up that statement here. These people have an agenda, and Israel Hayom’s agenda is to help make Bibi look good.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world -1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Thanks for clarifying this. Are there other israel sources with better polling?

[–] MistressMaiden@pawb.social 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Haaretz seems to be a better alternative. Wiki says it’s left leaning and praised for its reporting and commentary.

And of course! Can’t trust much these days unfortunately.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world -1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Their conclusion that >50% of israelis refuse to give Palestinians a state is interesting but I can't really find any numbers about support for the Genocide in israel

[–] MistressMaiden@pawb.social 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It’s the closest article I could find without having to go on an hours-long rabbit hole of trying to find out something better. Sorry about that.

But yeah, it is interesting. Tbh it kinda reminds me about how half of Russia supports the war in Ukraine and half of the US supported Trump. Half of everyone (or half of everyone who’s making their voice heard) is going nuts these days

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world -1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

True. But a recent Breaking Points video with Haaretz writer Gideon Levy did have him mention that he is a very lonely voice against the Genocide.

And that even many of his past anti Zionist friends have reverted to supporting the eradication of Palestinians again.

[–] eardon@lemmy.ca -1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I think zionists are starting to infest lemmy.

They know how threatening it is to have a platform where people aren't loyal to their cause.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

It’s not Zionism to understand that the Israeli people do not want war. 21% of Israelis are Palestinian. Netanyahu currently has a 15% favorability rating among Israelis. There are protests in the tens of thousands in the streets of Israel. He’s simply not long for this position.

[–] blazera@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

As soon as you said the word israeli its entirely about zionism. Thats it, thats israel, thats the only reason it exists

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

That is a very ignorant understanding of the state of Israel. A third of Israel’s citizens are not Jewish, and the remaining citizens fall into three groups regarding its role as a Jewish state.

https://jewishcurrents.org/recent-polls-of-us-jews-reflect-polarized-community

[–] yesman@lemmy.world -1 points 7 months ago (2 children)

There is no such thing as a non-Jewish Israeli citizens. Can an Arab "citizen" buy land anywhere they wish? Can an Arab "citizen" repatriate refugee relatives? Can an Arab "citizen" commemorate the Nakba free of government discrimination? Can a political party that advocates equal rights for Arabs seat members in the Knesset?

You don't get to celebrate diversity in an Apartheid State.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

That’s wildly incorrect. Jewish is both an ethnicity and a religion. The state of Israel is heterogeneous in both ethnicity and religion. Also, not all people of Jewish ethnicity practice Judaism. You should read more.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Israel

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Israel

[–] yesman@lemmy.world -1 points 7 months ago

How you define Jewish is irrelevant. They are the only people with full Israeli citizenship. Israel has racist laws, discriminatory policy, and separate services, like schools. A non-Jew has fewer rights in Israel. You can obfuscate, but you can't argue.

[–] Billy@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 7 months ago

around 27% of israel's citizens are not jewish. they have the same rights jews have, so yes they can buy land wherever a jew can.
there are 4 arab parties in the knesset.
one of them was part of the 2022 government.

[–] Jews4Palestine@lemmy.today -2 points 7 months ago

I believe in a world without Zionism.