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    [–] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 5 months ago

    It's that phenomenon where people who endured trauma to attain something expect others to also endure the trauma.

    I've tried learning GIMP, and it sucks. I'm not saying GIMP sucks, but you have to be crazy to not see that it's hard to learn.

    [–] Synth@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

    I dunno if it was you asking the question or not but ^^;; if you want some decent replacements for gimp I recommend krita, it's more Photoshop like and honestly it's my go-to however there is also photopea which is a browser editor that I heard is actually pretty good, and if you're on Mac or Windows (if so I dunno why you'd post here XD) I recommend the Affinity suit, it's cheaper than Photoshop and it's a one time payment instead of a subscription.

    [–] alyth@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

    I was just lurking, but I appreciate you sharing your knowledge and I like your use of the ^^;; and XD emojis :3

    [–] hperrin@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

    I feel like it would be helpful to include the text of their post rather than just the title:

    TL;DR Sorry if this is wrong group. GIMP = Epic POS. Do not use. Please recommend a decent alternative. Don't waste your time with GIMP help because I am done.

    I hope the mods or the bots don't kill this post right away. It's a serious and legitimate question from a UX designer with several decades of experience, who doesn't want anyone else to suffer what I have. I didn't know where else to post it, so I'm trying here as a first-timer. I apologize if this is not in the spirit of the group.

    I quit Adobe, can't afford the price any more (long story). I thought GIMP could replace Photoshop. But the user interface is horrible, and the app is full o' bugs.

    Here's the straw that broke the camel's back.

    I tried to make a meme. The font selection overlay was a tiny, pathetic, hard to read joke. Not even a font selection dropdown, let alone one that provided previews with every line item like PS does. Deep breath, continue. I type "Impact". Red text. I backspaced and typed "Im". All I got was Impact Condensed. (Yes, I have Impact, and have used it in PS). So I picked it anyway. Then I tried to find the outline font feature. In Photoshop, it's a simple "choose stroke" feature. GIMP? Hello?

    I want to the Web to find a tutorial where it pointed out the feature. No luck. Searched again to find a workaround / hack. Mostly crap. Found one that was current and seemed decent. Followed it carefully. GIMP crashed.

    While I appreciate the thoughts of anyone who may be compelled to point out a simple workaround or feature that I missed, don't bother. This is the last of many dozens of problems I have wasted my time working around while suffering many crashes, and I already uninstalled it.

    So. Recommendations?

    https://www.reddit.com/r/GIMP/comments/110opcc/can_anyone_recommend_a_suitable_replacement_for/?rdt=47111

    I think it’s also worth giving the correction that there is a font selection dropdown with previews in GIMP. It’s to the left of the font input box.

    [–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

    anyone who has ever used image editing software professionally knows gimp's ui sucks very much.

    we could have had an opensource photoshop killer if the developers werent adamant to keep the 90s workflow holding it back for so damn long.

    "you are using it wrong!!" my ass.

    [–] todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee 1 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    I feel like the issue is that people expect a "Photoshop killer" to be Photoshop verbatim. Instead of focusing on making a good tool, people just constantly compare it to the commercial pack leader.

    Most of the complaints I hear about GIMP are just "x isn't like Photoshop". I would take the complaints more seriously if any of the people voicing them could actually articulate what should be improved.

    [–] Theharpyeagle@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

    I mean, there's something to be said about adhering to an industry standard. Of course no project has to do so if they don't want to, but people trying to get on with their work don't want to spend a bunch of time relearning everything. I think Blender really thrived when they loosened up a little on their ideas of what a workflow should be and gave people industry standard options out of the gate.

    Whether we like it or not, GIMP isn't going to be most people's first experience with image manipulation. Whether they had a free PS license through school/work, had a subscription at some point, or once got it through ahem alternative means, people will be coming into GIMP with certain expectation of what the workflow should look like and will get frustrated pretty quickly.

    [–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

    we saw a similar thing with blender, everyone kept shitting their pants over blender, until studios started actually using it, and then nobody cared.

    Most of the complaints are just people mad that they have to learn something. As is true for most things in life.

    [–] lemmynparty@lemmings.world 1 points 5 months ago

    Blender has also undergone multiple UI changes over the years to make it more usable for new people.

    [–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

    many such cases. good to call it out, and needs to happen more often and consistently as toxicity is the #1 barrier to the “year of the Linux desktop” in my experience

    edit: also https://krita.org/

    [–] Deckweiss@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

    Krita is really good for digital drawing and painting, but photoshop does cover a lot of other things, which krita can not do. In that sense Krita is more of a Corel PaintShop Pro alternative. While GIMP is the best, but still very bad, alternative to photoshop.

    [–] ian@feddit.uk 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

    Gimp isn't perfect. But neither is Photoshop. In fact Lightroom users grizzle that Photoshop is so much harder to use than Lightroom. It's a different animal.

    I use Pinta or Paint.Net when I want a quick edit. But Gimp has the tools for serious editing. More tools, more hard to use.

    Some Gimp things, yes! should be improved. And other things are being improved as we speak. And some things can be done on a photo much easier in Inkscape.

    I hope the whiners donated to Gimp development? No? Then just please step back, and think for a bit. If thinking is too hard, then just take a deep breath.

    [–] Ullallulloo@civilloquy.com 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

    Donating to GIMP will not likely make it user-friendly enough to make me use it unless absolutely forced to. I would much rather donate to Pinta or Paint.NET or something where development would actually benefit me.