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I've hears stories of some Americans telling other people who are speaking a non-English language "This is America, speak English!" even if the conversation has nothing to do with them. Why do they do this?

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[–] HurlingDurling@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

They are ignorant, taught hate, and told incorrectly that English is the official language of the United States, but in reality the United States doesn't have an official language. In fact before WW1 there where so many German speaking Americans that spme cities had German spelled street names, and German festivals.

[–] Mossheart@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 months ago

I agree with the first part, but pre WWI was over a hundred years ago. I'm sure there's more relevant and recent examples that could be found to strengthen an argument.

[–] eugenia@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (11 children)

Sorry, as a Greek-American (currently in Greece), I disagree with most of the people here. When you're part of a new country, you need to be able to do your business with the authorities in the official language. For that, some level of understanding the native language is required. In fact, to get any passport from any country, you need to have a B1-level understanding of that country's language. So yes, being in a country, you need to know the basics. And if you don't, then make sure you learn the basics within 6 months, in order to be able to live there without issues. I don't see that as xenophobia, I see it as common sense.

I moved to Greece from the US this year with my French husband. He doesn't speak Greek. I can tell you, it has been a nightmare for him doing paperwork, and I need to go with him EVERYWHERE in any government office in order to get setup. It wasn't pretty in the first few months, he was full of anxiety and he wouldn't leave the house without me.

Also, I worked in Germany in my youth, for a few months. I couldn't understand most of what was said (although I could pick up a few words, but certainly couldn't speak back). It was a nightmare. There were no free programs back then to learn the language, and so I went there without any preparation. Today, I wouldn't have done it that way. I would first learn the language in some basic form (today there are apps to do that), and then move there.

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[–] PrincessLeiasCat@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 months ago

A different perspective - my grandparents grew up speaking French. Then the state passed a law saying only English in schools when they were young children. They would get hit on the hands with rulers for speaking French.

This was of course passed down to my parents and myself. But my mom still bitches about kids where I currently live being in school and unable to speak English because they’re new immigrants.

She doesn’t see the hypocrisy and it’s sad.

[–] MikeOToxin@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Well, ya see, it's cuz America=/=the World.

But those Americans think the opposite.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 5 points 4 months ago

Uh, if there's a "rest of the world" why haven't I seen it?

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

Because they're stupid and racist. They feel like they're left out and dont know how to parse it. Some also think that anybody speaking in a language thats not English in America have something to hide. When really its just what they're comfortable using. Forcing everyone to use and learn English at all times is like forcing everyone to use the same text editor at all times. Not everyone is comfortable in Vim or Emacs, and everyone should probably know a little about another editor rather than just their favorite. Which brings me to my final point: our education system has failed us.

[–] wuphysics87@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago

Many people presume that if someone is speaking a different language, they are talking shit. I've regretably been one of them, but sometimes you aren't wrong (RE Chinese people who speak Chinese and the "ABC"s who don't)

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

I love hearing other languages in the US. It reminds me of the lofty ideals that were taught to me as a child. The Great Melting Pot, Give me your poor, your tired, your huddled masses, E Pluribus Unum and all that.

I hate that there is a significant portion of the population here that violently believes that English is the only language here.

[–] MeetInPotatoes@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago

Beats me, I live in Arizona and hearing other people speak Spanish is a daily occurrence. I don't get even the slightest bit upset by it and I feel like you'd have to be insane to care about such a thing.

So maybe you have it here, some people are insane.

[–] SuiXi3D@fedia.io 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Probably because most Americans can’t speak any other language… because our education system is awful… because those in power prefer a stupid populace because they’re easier to control.

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[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Forgiveness answer: At least for me, hearing someone speak in a foreign language near me if I’m trying to do something is like Kryptonite for my concentration. I basically just have to leave and go somewhere else, or else abandon the idea of getting something done until it stops. It’s just impossible for my brain to not pay attention to it. I don’t think I would ever blame it on the person who’s just trying to have a conversation, and if I’m just standing in line or something it doesn’t bother me, but I do understand how it can be irritating.

Probably more realistic answer: Because living in America leads to a spiraling hell of stress and unhappiness, and so if you’re an asshole, and some innocent person presents themselves that you can take it all out on for literally any made up reason at all, then it’s go time. Also explains a lot of taking it out on customer service people for literally no reason at all.

[–] HEXN3T@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 4 months ago

Entitlement. Simple as.

[–] uebquauntbez@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I god, obey! Chauvinism, pure chauvinism. Tho ... english ... is a melting pot of languages. As many other languages were before. So it might as well be the laziness of Americans. Forget where they or their ancestors came from and forget about politeness.

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[–] kionite231@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Could it be that the person saying it because he thinks those person could be talking about them and it makes them uncomfortable.

There is also hindi quote "peeth piche burai karna"

[–] MrFappy@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

I feel like that quote was talking about me and that makes me uncomfortable… lol.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago

This is a myth as far as I know. I’ve never seen it happen.

[–] IzzyScissor@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

If they're anything like my mother, they automatically assume anyone speaking in any language other than English within earshot of her is shit-talking her, specifically. The thought that someone might be saying something mean-spirited about her is just too much for her tiny brain to handle. If you think she's a bitch, she needs to know. It reeks of desperation and the need to be liked by all people at all times while also doing nothing to bridge that gap yourself.

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