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[–] matcha_addict@lemy.lol 49 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Corbyn is yet another proof of the hopelessness of Western electoral politics. Just merely viewing Arabs as human gets you disqualified and destroys your political career, when he was a major reason for the party's success to begin with.

[–] NoiseColor@startrek.website 14 points 5 months ago

It's not like that, it's the other way around. The main goal is to destroy corbyn (or any real leftist). None of them care for Palestinians even in a way to think of them, let alone dwell on their humanity. They are a tool if needed.

[–] hopesdead@startrek.website 4 points 5 months ago (2 children)

It’s as if one major atrocity against a whole religious group gives the world free rein to ignore their actions. Just because a group is targeted for genocide does not mean they themself cannot do anything morally wrong.

[–] matcha_addict@lemy.lol 16 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I agree, Israel has committed far too much horror to be ignored, but at the same time I wouldn't consider them to be representing any "religious group". They only represent themselves and their supporters, some of which are diverse in religious background.

[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Israel clothes itself in the garments of the Jewish people and uses them to defend it's actions. It claims that any action against it is an action against the Jewish people.

Now I know that there are Jewish people around the world saying "not in my name", but it's also why so many supporters of Israel exist. You can't divorce the religious aspect from this war. If it wasn't there this wouldn't be allowed to happen.

[–] Tangentism@lemmy.ml 4 points 5 months ago

Israel clothes itself in the garments of the Jewish people and uses them to defend it's actions. It claims that any action against it is an action against the Jewish people.

It is fascist Ashkenazi who have even destroyed the culture of Mithrathi and Sephardic Jews so that only their monoculture that mimics western white supremacy continues.

It's why they "rescued" Yemeni Jews then stole their children while forcing the adults to work on farms.

[–] Tangentism@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It's not the actions of that religious group as a whole but an extremist section within them, that mostly are non-practicing but have absolutely no compunction about using the martyrdom of those who died in the camps to further their fascist cause.

[–] HumanPenguin@feddit.uk 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

that mostly are non-practicing

Just to be clear. Practising was not a consideration to the NAZI ideals. And is in no way relevant to any of these events.

[–] Tangentism@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 months ago

I meant as in the zionists are mostly non-practising. Hertzl himself was an atheist.

[–] AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net 13 points 5 months ago

They were never going to let this man be Prime Minister

[–] doubtingtammy@lemmy.ml 5 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Would Cornbyn have won if not for the "antisemite" accusations?

[–] Tangentism@lemmy.ml 11 points 5 months ago

Milliband, the leader before Corbyn, was also undermined by the zionists in the party because of his support for Palestine but couldn't use the "antisemite" tag because he's Jewish. Instead they labeled him "toxic" & said "Jewish donors were leaving the party in droves"

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/labour-funding-crisis-jewish-donors-drop-toxic-ed-miliband-9849299.html

So the answer is that unless labour party leaders swear alliegence to Israel, they will face the wrath of vicious and toxic zionists.

[–] Kellamity@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 months ago

They definitely didnt help, nor did the right wing media or the Labour Party centrists undermining him

But ultimately he lost because of Brexit.

In his first election, despite the pressure against him, he took the Tories to a hung parliament and forced them to make a deal with the DUP. Cos people were sick of Austerity and liked his domestic platform

But when managing Brexit became the main issue in 2019(?), Johnson had a really strong message of 'oven-ready brexit', 'get it done', and Labour didn't have a coherent strategy. They didnt want to go full 'reverse it', cos lots of votes for Brexit came from Labour seats. They also didnt want to go full 'get out deal or no deal' because generally the left and progressive voters were anti-brexit.

Corbyn was elected to the leadership on the strength of his domestic and anti-austerity policies, and when the focus shifted to Brexit he was out of his comfort zone.

That's my analysis anyway. I liked Corbyn's foreign policy, but it wasn't what built his popularity