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The major question doctrine acts as a “get-out-of-text-free card” that conservative justices make “magically appear” whenever they see an executive branch policy that goes against their ideological “goals,” Justice Elena Kagan wrote in a dissent in the 2022 case of West Virginia v. EPA.

Apparently legislating from the bench is fine for Conservatives as long as you make up your own judicial doctrine as justification.

I don't know how we fix the problems we face. The court is seated by politicians, Congress is seated by grifters and ideologues,, and the people are too defeated/controlled to make meaningful changes.

My generation is so fucked. Between looming climate collapse, rising inequality, inaccessible housing market, it just feels like shit isn't worth even trying for.

We can't even get a small amount of our student loans discharged when prior generations paid basically nothing for them. And - let's not forget - how corps got all of their ppp shit written off. What a joke.

But they won't force the fkers that took out PPP loan out on all of the younger people stuck with student loan and further cause inflation to get worse.. I am honestly at the point where I think all of the younger generations need to band together, stop paying taxes and tell the government to just fk off already, they are not a legitimate government institute since they don't represent the will of the people and that we should establish a new government to replace it (using constitution and laws from saner country.)

We legitimately have tried to change this country through Bernie Sanders and instead only for DNC to say, "Lol fk all of you, Hillary Clinton!" in such a non-democratic notation and then they basically hand over the election to Trump and consequentially the 3 Supreme Court Positions to basically permanently screw us over. Even if we voted to get all of the Democrat's majority chairs in congress, they did nothing with it.

I'm tired of all of the double standards, some of my friends have been killed by this institute, because they went homeless, didn't get the medical coverage and all that during covid. To everyone telling people to go and vote, sure, but as long as the current political system is in place, America's only destiny is to further radicalize to the extremist right and democrat party is helping them do it. American government is NOT legitimate and it's not a democracy.

/rant

I refuse to believe this decision was influenced, in any way, by any actual consideration of the U.S. Constitution. There's no reasonable interpretation of that document which would provide sufficient justification to rule the relief plan unconstitutional. This was a political decision, pure and simple, by a government body that is supposed to be apolitical. Just like every other branch of government, the judiciary has become corrupted by billionaire donors and turned into a polarized mockery of its original intent. No wonder public opinion of the Supreme Court is in the toilet. They're no better than Congress these days.

Government by the 1%. For the 1%.

Disappointed but can't say I'm terribly surprised.

I really hate the state of the Supreme Court atm. Looking back, it wasn't a legitimate institution from the beginning, but the current 6-3 court shows how flawed it is, being out of line with public opinion in loads of different cases and effectively legislating from the bench via judicial review.

The only reason it has gotten this bad, though, is because Congress has abdicated its responsibilities as a legislative body and left it more and more to executive orders and court decisions. The entire debate around the Dobbs decision could have been avoided if Dems codified abortion into law, and this one could have avoided too if our Congress actually went to work legislating a solution to the ongoing student loan and college affordability crisis.

I think we need supreme court reform. I'm particularly partial to the idea of having a rotating bench pulled randomly from the lower courts each term, with each party in Congress getting a certain amount of strike outs to take people off that they don't want, similar to the way jurors are selected. I also think the people should be able to overrule the court via referendum, because ultimately we should decide what the constitution says.

I just can't see this happening though, at least for multiple decades until the younger people today get into political power.

I'm full of rage, the law means nothing we have no rights, fuck the courts, any petty revenge I can pull to get some type of catharsis I will until the loans are paid off; so for the rest of my life. If anyone has any play to be of mild annoyance, let me know I have one purpose and it's to fuck shit up.

I’m sooooo disappointed, but also sooooo not surprised.

Legally, Biden did have weak legal ground, but also legally then the decision shouldn’t have been allowed because the states who sued had, with unanimous decision by the Supreme Court, no legal ground at all.

NPR reports that the Biden admin will have a response and plan announced soon.

It's quite okay to bail out corporations all day long (2008/2009 great recession, 2020 pandemic) to the tune of billions and billions of dollars, but don't even think of helping normal people. Ever.

This just proves it's VERY important to vote and allowing someone like Trump to have 3 court picks has clearly been disastrous in many decisions made by this court.

That's cool I just won't pay them. What are you gonna do, not let me buy a house? Oh you mean some shit I'm not able to do anyways? Okay. :)

I'm in my mid-40s and I didn't go to college -- I was one of the last generations where you didn't HAVE HAVE HAVE to have an advanced degree to qualify for something like an admin assistant position.

I truly hope that the younger generations take this as an opportunity to stand up for themselves and stop feeding into the notion that everyone needs advanced degrees. It's absurd. If no one has a degree, then they can't demand that people have degrees. Degrees should be for engineers, doctors, people with advanced careers. Past that, it's simply a money making scheme for colleges and a bullshit bill of goods that they're selling to people who cant, and shouldn't have to, pay for it.

Nooooooo.

Why can't we have anything nice???

Despite the fact that student loans are completely f'd and something needs to be done ab out this, I think this is the riht call. The HEROS act was not meant to be used like this.

Congress needs to do this, not the president...

I’m blessed in that I was able to go to college for free, but I still think we should help out those who are drowning in debt. It’d be good for the economy too, more people would be able to spend money on luxuries rather then just on debt

Looks like there’s at least some safety net from Biden. https://www.politico.com/news/2023/06/29/biden-safety-net-student-borrowers-00104131

Still, this whole decision is absurd. It’s sad that SCOTUS decisions are effectively bought and sold with this court.

Just in time for the republicans to blame Biden for the economic down turn late this year, early next year, after payments restart for 43 million.