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Linux user survey! (pad.tchncs.de)
submitted 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) by boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net to c/linux@programming.dev
 

To get an idea of this community, and to try the cool CryptPad Survey feature, I created a pretty big Linux usage survey!

The data is anonymized and the content encrypted on the server. I plan on publishing the results.

Have fun!

It works on hardened Firefox on a phone, but the experience is better on a PC.


live results

Notes

  1. I am very sorry but the question "it is okay that my above message gets published" cannot reasonably be respected, as the text is just dumped into a single block
  2. Lag caused some empty questions to appear, removed
  3. A question about disk encryption and "why do you use other OS" got mixed up
  4. i changed the wording of some questions or added more options, so there may be duplicate old answers or too little new ones. You can edit your submission and update your answers.
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[–] 299792458ms@lemmy.zip 23 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Why can not all those be true?

[–] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net 8 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Some answers are phrased so that they all make sense, I am more interested in the most important reasons.

Just everyone selecting everything is not that useful.

[–] sxan@midwest.social 3 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Does CryptoPad not support a ranked-choice voting? You get better information than with approval voting.

Also, are you keeping the results from each iteration, or will there be a final version that us early repliers should return to?

[–] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net 2 points 4 months ago

I dont know I think so? There is a "numbered list" option

[–] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net 2 points 4 months ago

You can edit your votes as I made some fixes. I decided against a second version.

And yes I forgot the ranked voting, this would make a hell lot of sense.

I will do a second one

[–] 299792458ms@lemmy.zip 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Assumed that much, maybe phrase as the 3 most relevant to one?

[–] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I put a note in the top text

[–] 299792458ms@lemmy.zip 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Dope, great work. are you going to edit this post or make a new one for the tesults?

[–] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net 1 points 4 months ago

This will get a new post to be more visible

[–] DerisionConsulting@lemmy.ca 16 points 4 months ago (3 children)

I can't complete the survey because of the questions.

Some questions are single choice but should allow for multiple, like 29.
Some questions are too broad, like question 17, "why?".

[–] Cris_Color@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I believe 17 is why you use disk encryption, as that was the question above for me

[–] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Sorry, wrong formatting. Will edit that.

[–] Cris_Color@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Didn't realize you could edit it, it'd be nice if there were options for using your computer for creative work like 3D modeling or digital art :)

[–] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net 1 points 4 months ago
[–] TheHobbyist@lemmy.zip 12 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I feel that the questions around community and integration should not depend on the gender selection in question 2, imo.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The sad reality as that tech is still not terribly diverse. It is better than it was but still lacking.

[–] TheHobbyist@lemmy.zip 7 points 4 months ago (5 children)

I'm not disagreeing, but the poll prevents reporting a bad community experience of you select "male" as gender.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 4 months ago

That is actually fairly flawed

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[–] K4mpfie@feddit.de 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Duo to the way Crytopad works please remember to add a "Don't want to say" answer to questions with radio buttons, since you cannot deselect them meaning you can't back out of questions you don't want to answer. Hit me up if you wanna do that survey again. I'll gladly help you with structuring and formatting

[–] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net 2 points 4 months ago

Longer than expected, but it reminded me of some things I haven't thought of in a while.

[–] cheddar@programming.dev 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

62 questions. I guess I am lazy.

[–] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net 2 points 4 months ago

I kinda escalated but that form feature is supercool, those are not really 62, they expand depending on what you select.

For example if you use GNOME and used KDE before, it asks for reasons.

Thats probably a bug

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (6 children)

What is your gender?

What is your / your families income?

Do you have a special brain?

Yeah this survey is super inappropriate and offensive. Please do not ask such personal questions.

[–] TheHobbyist@lemmy.zip 8 points 4 months ago (3 children)

I think these questions may be, depending on the context, but I'm willing to assume that these are not intended to be. If they come from a legitimate wish to better understand the community without prejudice, then these questions are acceptable to me. It's also a standalone poll, self reported and with no tie to any identity.

But maybe I'm unique in thinking that these questions may have circumstances in which they are acceptable?

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[–] AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee 2 points 4 months ago

The way I thought of that, as someone with a special brain (autism) is that rather than just knowing things like experience and what they use/like/dislike/etcetera, it's also good to know a breakdown of what groups of people are using Linux/answered the survey. At least there was an "I'd rather not say" kind of option in case you don't wanna give up that information.

[–] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Every of these questions is optional and has a "not saying anything" answer.

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[–] ransomwarelettuce@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The last one is just stupid, to be honest. But the rest are relevant for statistics sake.

[–] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net 8 points 4 months ago (3 children)

No I am honestly curious as I have the feeling there are tons of people with ADHD and Autism in the Linux community, myself included.

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[–] agilob@programming.dev 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yeah this survey is super inappropriate and offensive. Please do not ask such personal questions.

Did you notice that more inappropriate questions appear and disappear based on your previous answers?

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 0 points 4 months ago

I didn't. Thanks for bring that to my attention

[–] sag@lemm.ee 4 points 4 months ago
[–] falseprophet@fedia.io 3 points 4 months ago
[–] kionite231@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

when we can we expect to get results?

[–] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net 4 points 4 months ago

This is a first run, doing an overhaul currently (no idea if this breaks things).

Then will post to other lemmy forums and general matrix discussions.

Then in 2 weeks or so the results

[–] tatterdemalion@programming.dev 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Very biased survey in general. Should have more open-ended questions and less tailoring of questions based on previous answers.

[–] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net 1 points 4 months ago

I experimented with the platform.

The "anonymous" feature means I cannot do a lot of things one would normally do. For example I have no idea "users that use ubuntu and stayed with Ubuntu will likely dont care about xyz". Because there is no correlation.

Having questions depend on the previous answers makes it possible to filter out groups of people to get more interesting data.

And for sure the questions are biased, try to do an unbiased survey that is still interesting or funny. But I tried my best.

[–] qqq@programming.dev 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Why does "Why did you switch from*" have different options for each distro? Thought it was funny only NixOS had "toxic people" option. Guessing due to recent drama.

[–] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net 2 points 4 months ago

I see someone trying out the options ;)

Yes for sure not the perfectly scientific method, but I used things that are known. Like Snaps and Ads for Ubuntu, too old packages for Debian, and "I dont know really why to use it" for OpenSUSE lol

And yes, NixOS to my knowledge has a huge governance issue.

I will do another survey about exact distros, and could have used specific ones here too but didnt want to for now.

[–] tatterdemalion@programming.dev 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

What is the difference between "Versioned" and "Stable"? And which one is NixOS?

[–] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net 1 points 4 months ago

I am not sure haha, I think versioned means there is a certain amount of stability but closer to upstream, while stable is like "I run Kernel 5.14 and do my patches myself".

It is the same but with a slight difference in how extreme it is.

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