I don't understand why this sort of thing doesn't happen more often during these wierd visits to places.
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Because usually everyone is vetted
That and the tendency to sneek out the back door or hide in fridges
I still can't believe Indiana Jones managed to avoid that interview.
TBF, he doesn't just hate young people. The Tories hate everybody who isn't rich.
The truth is that Rishi Sunak is very happy to sacrifice the young to bad outcomes because he doesn't think they'll vote for him anyway so he can punch down without fear of electoral impact.
This applies to most parties tbh.
Young people don't vote in big enough numbers for parties to care about them. So they just appease pensioners because they're the ones who are going to get them into power or keep them in power.
You're not wrong. If young people turned out every election then things might change.
Source- former stupid nonvoting till 22 kid. And i was even ahead of my cohorts.
Every year young people are different. They may have a strong feeling of being a part of society this year, they may feel completely disenfranchised next year. Because every year there's a new set of them.
Every year old people stay the same. Because their views are already set in stone, you won't convince them of anything new. Also, they had time to form good behaviors. They had time to learn to vote even if they feel disenfranchised. They had time to learn to complain if they think something isn't right (even if they're wrong about it), and that you can make a difference and have your voice heard. They had time to learn these lessons and now, even if their opinion is wrong, they'll go out and vote, they'll put in the effort to get what they want.
Unfortunately, children haven't really learned all this. The average 18 year old is still getting bullied by his McDonald's boss to come in on their free time, and indoctrinated by their bad teachers that you shouldn't question authority, of course they don't think their opinion matters. They also don't understand enough about politics to know which way they want to go on some issues. This drives them to be indifferent towards it.
Turn out for one of the parties punching down on them? Can't imagine why they haven't done it. Total fucking mystery.
"Vote for us, so we can ensure that all the young people are too pissed off to look after you in your old age."
He hates poor people, is the thing. Younger people are poorer, so he hates them as a by-product. It's the same deal with immigrants: the Tories are mostly fine with rich immigrants, but since most immigrants are poor, that still means they hate most immigrants.
He loves to exploit the vulnerable.
The young are almost always vulnerable, as they have few allies and strategies, nor resources to use to protect themselves.
It's when the exploited get uppity that he gets frustrated.
"Can't they see they're getting in the way?"
“I’ve volunteered all my life,” the student began, only for the PM to reply: “Then you’ll love it!”
What an asshole.
Young people can really make a difference in this election.
The difference being a move from tories just losing. To them failing to be the main opposition party.
The current predictions on electoral calculus are 66 seats for the tories. 59 seats for the lib dems.
But there are a predicted 53 seats where lib dems are predicted to land within 10 % of the tories winning.
Young voters are generally under represented in this polling. So if you live in one of those seats. A high agreement to tactical vote among younger voters. And a higher turn out. Could be enough to turn 4 or more seats. Making the lib de,s the official opposition.
And the tories the 3rd party.
Personally I cannot imagine a more effective way to inform the tories they funked up with younger voters.
And they so very badly need to learn that lesson, yes. Hopefully this nonsense motivates a new generation of young people forming a habit of voting, and of voting against the Conservative Party.
Is there a requirement for him to stick around and campaign? It sounds like he's already made his post-election plans. He's already got the PM gig on his resumé. Why not go now and avoid the abuse? He can claim he's doing it out of a sense of fairness to give the Tories a fresh start.
I heard that his kids are already enrolled to go to schools in the US this year.
OK, but he did claim he was going to stay on as an MP. Come to think of it, that's a bit of an admission that he's going to lose the election and then be replaced as leader of the Conservative Party.
I haven't heard either way... I have a feeling though that he's resigned to losing and is just trying to preserve what little dignity his party has left by not triggering yet another change in leadership between elections. Nothing that he's said or done tells me that he and his team really care about the election.
The Conservative Party is notoriously unforgiving of leaders who lose general elections, and currently pathologically addicted to leadership elections. I'd be very surprised if he's not gone by the end of the year even if he does exceptionally well in the general election.
Yeah definitely and good riddance to him. I think they should ask Rory Stewart to come back. They won't do that of course but I feel like he's the only decent guy they've had near the top in as long as I can remember.
If Rory Stewart were standing in my constituency, I would be very tempted to vote for him. In his work he's now an advocate of alleviating many of the problems in the poorest communities globally by giving no-conditions cash. Who knew that the problems of poverty could be solved with money?!!!
He's also a reasonable person and one who I think genuinely wants good things for the country in general rather than just for rich folk. He actually wants Britain to be governed well and in the interests of the population. He has some blind spots of course, he wouldn't be a Conservative of he didn't, but he's decent and there's hope that he can be persuaded by evidence of benefit.
Getting bored with SLAMMED! already?
I'd rather be slammed than skewered. Though both sound pretty kinky.
Really an issue of scope IMO. How slammed and how skewered, are the questions I'm asking.
I would not call that skewered.
But if they have an accurate title like "Rishi Sunak Mildly Insulted By Student" we might realize how much of a non story this is and not click. Won't you think of their ad revenue?
It's only a story because it's so incredibly rare that members of the public get the chance to criticise his crazy policies to his face, in terms ordinary folk can relate to.
Rishi Sunak fucked up the arse by the penis of a student
That'd be a turn up for the books; usually it's the student who gets shafted by the Tories, not the other way around.
OGLIARCH MUTILATED BY SHARP WORDS, REMAINS RICH AND POWERFUL!
Hopefully considerably less powerful soon.
Technically he was right, no one is being made to go into the Army.
To be really pedantic, one of the options is military service. That covers all three services.
Rish! is still a knob though. He might as well leave now. We know he's off abroad at the first opportunity.
Young people don't want to give up their weekends doing unpaid "mandatory volunteer" work either, though. There's no actually good option here for young people.
Let them get a good education, let them build a career, let them use spare hours for extra earning or relaxation, because their property costs are astronomical. Don't sacrifice them further just for political gain.
It's true to form for the Conservatives, though. You were sacrificed for political gain if you were low paid, if you needed healthcare or social care, if you were disabled, if you were trans, and pretty much if you weren't a wealthy outright property-owner.
The thing is, the whole 'National Service' thing is to get all the old people to vote - and we're getting to a point where none of THEM did national service but they think it'll be a good thing for other people to do.
Very much so, yes.