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[–] treadful@lemmy.zip 129 points 5 months ago (10 children)

It's a privilege escalation.

The vulnerability, tracked as CVE-2024-1086 and carrying a severity rating of 7.8 out of a possible 10, allows people who have already gained a foothold inside an affected system to escalate their system privileges. It’s the result of a use-after-free error, a class of vulnerability that occurs in software written in the C and C++ languages when a process continues to access a memory location after it has been freed or deallocated. Use-after-free vulnerabilities can result in remote code or privilege escalation.

[–] JonnyRobbie@lemmy.world 55 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] fossphi@lemm.ee 26 points 5 months ago (1 children)
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[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 5 points 5 months ago

This is why least privilege is so important. If one account is compromised it will be harder to compromise others if the original account is isolated.

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[–] drwho@beehaw.org 74 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Outfits that haven't installed patches since February are getting popped in May by a vuln that was published in January.

[–] jjlinux@lemmy.ml 10 points 5 months ago

Normal technology situations created by normal human behavior. 😜

[–] QuazarOmega@lemy.lol 6 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Outfits? What does it mean in this context?

[–] Waltzy@feddit.uk 16 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] QuazarOmega@lemy.lol 5 points 5 months ago

Ahh, thank you

[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 5 points 5 months ago

Suits and shit.

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[–] stuckgum@lemmy.ml 45 points 5 months ago (10 children)

Yet another security issue that Rust would solve.

[–] veniasilente@lemm.ee 67 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Oh, we heard, Rust is the greatest invention since sliced bread. We heard it already. Like 65534 times.

[–] Zucca@sopuli.xyz 58 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Like 65534 times.

So close to full 16-bit max. So close...

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 16 points 5 months ago

Yeah I figured he was going purposely for a memory overflow

[–] veniasilente@lemm.ee 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yeah we only need 2 brainRusts more to start seeing some fun.

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[–] urska@lemmy.ca 27 points 5 months ago (5 children)

Aviation, Health, Space and Car industry have only 3 certified languages that they use. Ada, C and C++. Ada is dying because there are way less young engineers who want to invest their future learning it. Then there is C and C++ but they dont offer memory safety and its really hard to master and its really hard and long (thats what she said) to certify the code when being audited for safety by a tier company.

Rust solves by default (no need to review) like 2/3 of the standard requirements those industries have and are that found in C and C++. Rust will soon be approved in this group by the car industry.

Im not a rust fan, but I have 3 things to say about rust.

  • Its fun to program like C++ having the peace of mind knowing the compiler is there helping.
  • You dont feel like youre defusing a bomb like when writing C.
  • Even though its a fun language to write, its also really hard to master, itd say 2 years to be really proficient with it. There is just so much knowledge.
[–] anton@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 5 months ago

Aviation, Health, Space and Car industry have only 3 certified languages that they use. Ada, C and C++.

Rust is automotive certified since over half a year. https://ferrous-systems.com/blog/officially-qualified-ferrocene

[–] caseyweederman@lemmy.ca 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Could you explain the "no need to review" part? I do keep hearing good things about Rust.

[–] urska@lemmy.ca 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

These industries hire third parties to review c and c++ line per line to make sure it's memory safe. Rust by default forces you to write memory safe code, otherwise it won't even compile. The rust compiler tells where is the problem and what it expects. No only for basic Type errors but also for concurrent code.

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[–] drwho@beehaw.org 18 points 5 months ago (9 children)

I wonder how many folks are just refusing to use Rust to spite the Rust Evangelism Strike Team.

[–] Templa@beehaw.org 8 points 5 months ago

Rustaceans 🤝 Vegans

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[–] doona@aussie.zone 13 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I hate it when people talk about new technologies 🤬

[–] veniasilente@lemm.ee 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Same. We should head back to ICQ!

[–] leopold@lemmy.kde.social 8 points 5 months ago (3 children)

eh, still beats Discord as far as I'm concerned

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[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 33 points 5 months ago (5 children)

Yet another problem that actually updating your shit - which is trivially easy on enterprise Linux - would fix.

It's part of the 95% of problems solved by actually updating your enterprise Linux host.

[–] delirious_owl@discuss.online 7 points 5 months ago (4 children)

unattended-upgrades and forget about it

[–] KISSmyOSFeddit@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

oops, our third party application broke again

[–] delirious_owl@discuss.online 5 points 5 months ago

Never happened to me when set to security.

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[–] the_doktor@lemmy.zip 12 points 5 months ago (5 children)

Any software can have security issues, including ones written in rust. Just because C/C++ allows one to shoot oneself in the foot doesn't mean it's something that's commonly allowed by anyone with any skill, it's just a bug like anything else. I swear, people advocating rust believe that it's something intrinsic in C/C++ that allows such a thing regardless of what a developer does, and it's getting tiresome.

[–] ProgrammingSocks@pawb.social 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Of course a good developer can avoid these problems for the most part. The point is that we want the bad developers to be forced to do things a safe way by default.

[–] pathief@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago

Even good developers make mistakes. It's really nice to catch these mistakes at compile time.

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[–] GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

There are still slight advantages to C that probably will make some devs stick to it in specific cases

But this isn’t one of them

[–] DacoTaco@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Serious question, how would using rust avoid this? Rust still has reference types in the background, right? Still has a way to put stuff on the heap too? Those are the only 2 requirements for reusing memory bugs

[–] sleep_deprived@lemmy.world 32 points 5 months ago (13 children)

This is a use-after-free, which should be impossible in safe Rust due to the borrow checker. The only way for this to happen would be incorrect unsafe code (still possible, but dramatically reduced code surface to worry about) or a compiler bug. To allocate heap space in safe Rust, you have to use types provided by the language like Box, Rc, Vec, etc. To free that space (in Rust terminology, dropping it by using drop() or letting it go out of scope) you must be the owner of it and there may be current borrows (i.e. no references may exist). Once the variable is droped, the variable is dead so accessing it is a compiler error, and the compiler/std handles freeing the memory.

There's some extra semantics to some of that but that's pretty much it. These kind of memory bugs are basically Rust's raison d'etre - it's been carefully designed to make most memory bugs impossible without using unsafe. If you'd like more information I'd be happy to provide!

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[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 5 points 5 months ago

The problem is bad programmers. You can write good C code but it takes more effort and security checking. You also can write vulnerable and sloppy Rust code.

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[–] bigkahuna1986@lemmy.ml 30 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Is there a way to jailbreak an Android phone using this exploit?

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You could just unlock the bootloader

[–] JCreazy@midwest.social 44 points 5 months ago (8 children)

Assuming the bootloader is unlockable

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[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 13 points 5 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


It’s the result of a use-after-free error, a class of vulnerability that occurs in software written in the C and C++ languages when a process continues to access a memory location after it has been freed or deallocated.

At the time this Ars post went live, there were no known details about the active exploitation.

A deep-dive write-up of the vulnerability reveals that these exploits provide “a very powerful double-free primitive when the correct code paths are hit.” Double-free vulnerabilities are a subclass of use-after-free errors that occur when the free() function for freeing memory is called more than once for the same location.

The write-up lists multiple ways to exploit the vulnerability, along with code for doing so.

The double-free error is the result of a failure to achieve input sanitization in netfilter verdicts when nf_tables and unprivileged user namespaces are enabled.

Some of the most effective exploitation techniques allow for arbitrary code execution in the kernel and can be fashioned to drop a universal root shell.


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[–] TeddyKila@hexbear.net 11 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Rolling release stays winning

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